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    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      Today (February 12th 2024) the ***************** yelled at me, talked over me, and refused to help deescalate the problem. I got a phone call today that they still havent received my proof of insurance via email. (I wrote it down wrong) and when the lady was speaking to me, she was so mad for no reason. I tried to deescalate by being nice. I said I dont understand the problem babe and she yelled DONT CALL ME OUT OF MY NAME and hung up. I called back to get some resolve (because if you dont have my proof of insurance thats an issue) they asked would you like a manager I said yes because if thats the customer service I get while being nice, Id rather speak to a manager. They put ****** on the phone (the *** I explained the situation to him. He said are we done here I said excuse me? He said well send proof of insurance before he turn off the car I said well thats the issue. I sent it in to (read back the wrong email) he cut me off and goes NO THATS WRONG ITS (yells other email) and so I said okay so I wrote it down wrong and can you read it back again he goes I ALREADY SAID IT ONCE so I go how are you the *** I called to have this deescalated and now youre kinda making worse ****** yells back IM JUST RETURNING ENERGY! You called to complain about my staff and like I said SEND IN PROOF OF INSURANCE BEFORE WE TURN OFF THE ****** I said are you threatening me he replied in a snarky manager yeah! And Im the *****************! In shock I said do you remember last year I had to teach you how to talk to me? Have some decorum he said I really dont care and continued to berate me until I said I was on tiktok live. Then he was quiet, kept asking if we were done; and basically tried to rush me off the phone and insisted I called the BBB if I have an issue. So now here we are.

      Business response

      02/20/2024

      Good afternoon *******, I received your request for information about a complaint that you received from *********************. I am the General Manager of ***'s Auto Sales on west washington st.

      On 02/12/2024 I was transferred to a call from my ******************* my finance lady said a customer named Timea is requesting a manager.

      *****, ****************, said she hung up on the customer because she asked the customer to stop calling her ****** and instead to use mam or miss but the customer kept calling her babe.

      Well I got on the phone and  I asked, How can I help you today?

      ******** was already yelling and saying that her anxiety is high, she was speaking to one of my finance reps, that my finance rep was asking for proof of insurance and harassing her about this matter. She said that she already sent it to our email and doesn't understand why we are harassing her, said she can't come in because she's a server, claims that her email is not compatible with ours, she was hung up on because she used the word ****** instead of Mam or Miss towards the lady in finance. ***** kept talking about how bad of a dealership we are, that she has nothing but a bad experience with the customer service that we provide. I let her talk and vent, when she finally stopped, I asked her "Mam are you done"? She then went off on me saying that I don't care about my customers, that I only care about my team, that I probably have family members working for me, or maybe the lady that hung up on her is my work girlfriend etc, then she proceeded with saying "Do you remember that a year ago when my transmission went out I had to teach you how to talk to me" because you have poor customer skills. I then replied with Mam, all we need is proof of insurance, it is part of the contract to have insurance, if you claim that you sent it via email, then you probably have the email wrong. I then asked what email did she have written down? she gave me ********************************************************, I then told her no that is not right, I gave her ***********************************************. She then asked for me to repeat again, which I did and then she said "see, you don't even know your own business email address" I told her mam, I just gave you the correct email. So once again, you just need to provide insurance to us and if you don't provide it to  us within a few days then we will disable the car until you provide what we need.

      She then went live on tiktok telling her "viewers" this guy has poor customer skills, they harass their customers, we hang up on customers because she called one of the reps ****** instead of mam or miss, they are very *****, she then suggested for her viewers to put bad reviews on ****** about me, to call the dealership and to tell me how bad of a GM I am. She then wanted me to repeat what I told her so that her viewers can listen to the conversation, I told her again we need proof of insurance and if she doesn't provide it within a few days the vehicle will be disabled. ***** kept talking in the background to her live viewers saying how mean I was and that she had to teach me how to be polite and talk right to her a year ago, she then demanded my boss's personal number. I told her I am the general manager, I'm the highest she can speak to and that the number she needs is the **********, which is the store number. She said no I don't need the store number I need your boss's number, told her that's not how it works. She then threatened me with filing a complaint with the BBB, I told her to go ahead and once again told her all we need is proof of insurance and that's it. Yet she kept talking to her tiktok live viewers about how poor of a manager I was, She also said to me, I will come up there and see if you talk to me the way you are over the phone versus in person, said her father was a professional boxer, I told her mam I will give you the same energy as of right now over the phone versus in person, she then asked again for my boss's number and then asked me if she needed to ask me in SPANISH so that I can understand her better? Asked if I was ill?  At this point she was being racist towards me, that comment made me disconnect the call. She called back and kept going in circles, I simply told her that I am busy, our conversation is over, no she will not have the boss's number, I gave her the car lot number which is AGAIN ********** and told her to have a good day and hung up on her.

       

      If you have any further questions please contact me via email or phone at **********. Thanks!

      --

      ******

      General Manager

      ***'s Auto Sales

    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I'm in the process of purchasing a car for them that been having issues from week 3 of me having it. I have contacted **** several times complaining about the car and the problems are now worsening and this is the second time the car has been not able to drive. I recently took it to be serviced and it came back to me with a broken window that they are making me pay for. Now as of yesterday the the car won't start and has oil leaking from it every where. And they refuse to put me in a new car or to even lend me a loaner car so that I can get back and forth to work.after it was so called serviced the car came back with a yellowish ********************* like substance in the coolant reservoir. I had to put my own fluids back in to the car and everything. I just feel like I'm being robbed and scammed by this company because I have been saying that I feel like something is wrong with the car and they keep saying it fine.

      Business response

      12/12/2022

      ********* Sales
      3250 *******************
      ************,** 46222



      December 10, 2022



      To Whom it May ******************** am writing in response to the complaint filed with your organization by ****************************************. At the time of purchase of his 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee on August 12, 2022; we advised *************************** that the car would need to have a heater box installed and that he could take delivery of the car, and we could set up a follow up appointment for that to be installed, as it had to be ordered. ************************** agreed with this and took delivery of the vehicle. ************************** did not call and did not show up for the next three service appointments that were made. On the fourth appointment, he showed up two hours late and just left his car parked in the gravel next to our dumpster. The service manager went out and pulled the car into our garage for service and took notice that the drivers side window was cracked at that time. They completed the heater box repair and called *************************** to come and pick up the car once service was complete. *************************** began calling in shortly after saying that the window had been broken during the appointment,and we advised him that it was broken at the time it arrived for service, but we could help him with getting replacement installed, in which we did.
      A little time passes by, and we get another call from *************************** stating that the car has been overheating and that he needs a replacement car. He was advised by the general manager that the car has a limited powertrain warranty, and the first step would be to reach out to the warranty company, take the car to a shop that they advise him to, and see if this is something that could be repaired. He called the warranty company, and the car is currently at *** Boys awaiting an estimate for the warranty company to review. We have offered to reimburse *************************** for up to $25 a day for a rental car while the car is in the shop. We have also tried to discuss setting up arrangements for *************************** on his payments,we dont seem to be finding any common ground. *************** and I spoke today in regards to the next step to this matter. The shop (*** Boys) told him it will take a month and a half to get it to its other facility for engine job and another week or so to get repaired. We are working together to ensure that **************** is able to get traded out into something else versus waiting 2 months for him to have transportation. We are still in negotiations to find a good solution for **************** at the moment. If you have any questions feel free to contact me at **********.



      Sincerely,
      *************************
      General Manager

    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      Hello my name is *************************. My car is a 2015 ******* Sonata from Joes Auto Sales.My car was having issues so I sent it to my car lot to get it checked out. They were not able to fix the repair that was needed " Timing Chain". So the insurance company that Joes work with and that is attached my my loan sent me to ******** for the repair. ******** had my car for 2 months while I was waiting for the service to be complete. When I finally got my car back from them the Check Engine light was still on. I called them asking them did they know why. The machinic " *** ", said that the code that came back was a Cam Shaft Solenoid which is sensor. So I took it back to *** and **** who is the mechanics at Joes Auto's. They replaced it and that still did not change they problem. After months of driving it my car cuts off. I asked a different mechanic to take a look at it and I got it towed to **********. The same codes from the Timing Chain came back again. They had it towed back to *******. They have now had my car for another 2 months it has not been repaired, when I went to get a couple things out of the car. My car has just been sitting with no one taking a look at it and I asked my car lot to get in contact with them to see what the issue is and I even asked my car lot could they put my payments in the rear until we figure out what is wrong neither companies are cooperarating with me and I need help.

      Business response

      03/18/2022

       

      Please see attached.

    • Complaint Type:
      Sales and Advertising Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      On Saturday Oct 9th 2021 I went to joes auto sales to look at a car. While there I worked with ***** the salesperson, he showed me a handful of cars, he told me that the car I agreed to purchase a 2010 ***** Accord was $150/ biweekly, I gave him the down payment based off this information. When I purchased the car on 10/14/21. I and my significant other both were present as he was the co-signer. The financial ******************* that went over the documents for us to sign also stated that our payment would be $150/biweekly $300/ month. On 10/29/2021 was our first payment on the car we set up auto payments and they tried taking $300 out I called to confirm this information and to tell them my car payment was $150/biweekly they stated no it was $300/biweekly for a 2010 ***** Accord, I have contacted the business speaking with the ** also *****, letting him know I cant afford the payments/car he said the only thing he could do was have me bring the car back, I asked about a refund because it hasnt been 30 days since the purchase, he said they dont do that, so I read throughly through my contract with them and it doesnt state anywhere no refunds he then stated that it doesnt have to be in the contract no refunds he can just tell me that. This is not right, at all the car has ******* miles its not a newer car, this isnt fair, multiple people at the business on the days listed above were stating how the cars were over priced and unaffordable, that they wouldnt be going there again. I need help to get my deposit so I can return their car and leave it alone. I openly told there ** that I couldnt afford this payment amount due to me being a single mother of 3 young children and I am responsible for paying bills to keep a roof over our head this is taking a big chunk away from that. its very unprofessional they only state right, or yeah I understand I would of never told you that it was $75/week. Very rudely told me that I misunderstood them. I need help. ETC Madison *******

      Business response

      01/10/2022

      ****************** and ******************** came and purchased their vehicle on 10/14/2021.  I have spoken to the sales representative that sold her this vehicle and he advised me that they were looking at two different cars the day that they came in, however still never offered them a vehicle with a $75 per week payment.  He told me that when he advised them of the terms of the deal ($300 biweekly), they told him "That's no problem we both work and can handle that" We did have our finance manager, ******, sit in and go over all of the closing documents with them.  I reviewed those documents today and see in the contract (attached) that they are set on a bi-weekly payment schedule of $300.00.  I cannot see where any confusion in the payment would have come into play.  When ******************** called in and spoke to our General Manager, *****, he advised her that the contract she signed stated that she and ******************** had agreed to a $300.00/biweekly payment, however he could take a look and try to make some adjustments so that it was more affordable for her.  He was able to offer to decrease that biweekly payment to $250.00 all she would need to do would be come in and sign an amendment form because it would extend the term of the loan; but she declined and told him that "$50 is nothing".  She asked if she could return the vehicle for a refund.  He advised her that she could voluntarily return the unit, but that it would be considered repossessed at that time and that unfortunately we would not be able to return her any money.  I feel as though we have made every effort to try to accommodate ******************, we have tried to make adjustments to the payment, and feel that we have exhausted every option we have available to accommodate her.
      If you need any further information or if I can offer any other assistance in resolving this matter, please feel free to reach out to me.  Thank you for your time and consideration.

      ***************************
      Finance Department
      Joes Auto Sales
      *************

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