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    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I purchased a house in 2021 that had a propane tank for fuel. There are no distinctive markings or serial numbers on the tank. I called Ferrellgas prior to filling the tank to determine if they owned and filled the tank, they declined having any record of my residence in their system. I have never in 3 years received any communication or billing for a leased propane tank from Ferrellgas. I had another provider fill my tank in 2023. On Wednesday May 29, 2024 I have video proof of a Ferrellgas employee driving up and stealing my propane tank without any knock on the door, or attempt to notify me, the homeowner of any reason to steal my tank. There was no notice left or anything. All attempts at phone calls to Ferrellgas have been unanswered and there is no one at the local office to talk to. I will be taking this to civil court to be refunded the amount of my stolen propane and tank.

      Business response

      06/14/2024

      Response attached.The consumer complaint filed by ********* ******** has been forwarded to the Ferrellgas Legal Department for investigation and comment. I have completed my investigation, talked to the relevant field personnel, and offer the following response: Our records reveal that due to an overdue balance and an unactive account, Ferrellgas picked up the propane container that our system listed as leased. However, it is my understanding that the customer and Ferrellgas management resolved this matter on June 4, 2024 and the tank was reset. That said, Ferrellgas strives to provide best in class customer service and we regret that Ms. Marshall feels she did not receive such a level. If she still has un-resolved concerns, we would be happy to address them. 
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      My wife and I are elderly. I am 76 and she is 82 and are on a fixed income mainly from social security. We budget to be able to meet our financial obligations. We simply cannot afford to increase our monthly payment from $123.02 per month to $251.21 per month. Our understanding with this company was that we would pay $123.02 per month and we're devastated to have received this huge increase. This is a financial and emotional blow and we don't know how we can do this. I called the company and they are not willing to adjust this billing so we would really appreciate your help to determine if there is any way we would be able to keep the $123.02 payment per month. Last year we were told we weren't using enough propane to be on Ferrellgas's budget payment plan so this year we ran out in April and ordered another tankful and now they say we're using too much. You just can't win with this company. We would appreciate it if we could pay the $123.02 each month. Thank you for your help.

      Business response

      05/24/2024

      Response attached.
    • Complaint Type:
      Order Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      1: When I signed up for this service there was no mention of a tank rental fee. Last year and this year they have charged me such a fee and have threatened to remove my tank if I did not pay it. Their excuse is I do not use enough propane to cover their time. 2: They have also charged a platinum plus fee to get the best propane rate. Once again this was never mentioned in the original sign up for this service. ( Deceptive and hidden costs.) 3: Now they have sent me a bill saying they could not get their money from my account. This is the same bank account I have used for 3 plus years since I signed up and nothing has changed. I believe they are covering up negligence on their part of hacking or just plain poor bookkeeping. I am 67, disabled and on a fixed income. I do not have time for their games and discrimination against me for the amount of gas I use yearly. I have paid them over $600 dollars each year. If they dont want my business I suggest they come and pick up their tank and credit me for the unused gas in the tank. I have called them more than once only to be threatened with a poor credit report and no more service.

      Business response

      05/18/2024

      Response attached.The consumer complaint filed by *** ******* has been forwarded to the Ferrellgas Legal Department for investigation and comment. I have completed my investigation, talked to the relevant field personnel, and offer the following response: A review of *** *******’s consumer account reveals he commenced services with Ferrellgas in April 2020; leases a 500-gallon propane container; chose our “Will Call” delivery service and Net 30 payment terms. *** ******* is concerned about his tank rental fees, Ferrellgas’s Platinum Plus program fee and a recent invoice. Our Master Agreement for Propane Sales and Equipment Rental (“Agreement”), to which Mr. ******* is a party to, states the following regarding our minimum purchase requirements, “If you lease your Tank from us, you agree to purchase from us a volume of Propane at least equal to two times the water capacity of your tank each 12-month period following your first delivery of propane (the “Minimum Volume Requirement”), unless you have reached a different arrangement with us. If you fail to purchase your Minimum Volume Requirement, we may, at our option, either terminate this Agreement and cease delivery of propane to you, adjust the daily price of the Propane we deliver to you, or charge you a Low Usage Fee, and/or increase your Tank Rent to reflect your low usage”. A list of *** *******’s completed propane deliveries is below. As you will see, he is not meeting the Minimum Volume Requirement, thus his annual tank rental has increased; however, he has not been charged a Low Usage Fee. In available markets such as *** *******’s area, Ferrellgas residential customers are given the opportunity to join a preferred customer program called “Platinum Plus”. This program serves to provide our Platinum Plus customers with a guaranteed propane price for a 12-month period, but in order to participate and receive the special bulk pricing rate, customers must be a Platinum Plus member and pay a membership fee. Memberships in our Platinum Plus program begin each July and automatically renew yearly. Members are notified 30 days prior to the beginning of any renewal period to give them time to consider whether they want to continue to participate in this program. In regard to the Platinum Plus program and corresponding fee that *** ******* mentions in his complaint, attached is his most recent Platinum Plus program agreement. If *** ******* no longer wishes to be a Platinum Plus member, he should contact his local service center at ###-###-#### prior to the next renewal. 

      Customer response

      05/20/2024


      Complaint: 21716778

      I am rejecting this response because: I have never been to their office, nor have I signed anything. When I acquired their service they knew I was living in the mobile home by myself most of the time. There is no way I could possibly waste or use 400 plus gallons twice a year. I remember talking to them concerning this, only to have them take advantage to see how little work they can do and how much money they can make. I asked them to remove my tank last year and was told thy could not because of the weight of the propane. That is not my problem, they are the ones who filled it up. I want my tank removed immediately and to be credited for the propane in the tank. If this is not done by Friday May 24, 2024 I will start back charging a monthly rental fee to Ferrel gas on a monthly basis . I will be happy to set up a court preceding at the Tazewell Court system and invite everyone in their office for a morning talk with the judge.

      Sincerely,

      **** *******

      Business response

      05/22/2024

      Response attached.

      The consumer rejection filed by *** ******* has been forwarded to the Ferrellgas Legal Department for investigation and comment. I have completed my investigation, talked to the relevant field personnel, and offer the following response:

       

      A review of *** *******'s consumer account reveals he commenced services with Ferrellgas in April 2020; leases a 500-gallon propane container; chose our "Will Call" delivery service and Net 30 payment terms.

       

      *** ******* is further concerned about the Minimum Volume Requirement and has requested that Ferrellgas pick up our equipment.

       

      When *** ******* commenced services with Ferrellgas, he received a Customer Welcome Packet that also encloses our Master Agreement for Propane Sales and Equipment Rental ("Agreement"). Attached is a copy of the Customer Welcome Packet cover letter to *** ******* (redacted for customer privacy).

       

      In regard to our Minimum Volume Requirement, the Agreement states the following: "If you lease your Tank from us, you agree to purchase from us a volume of Propane at least equal to two times the water capacity of your tank each 12-month period following your first delivery of propane (the "Minimum Volume Requirement"), unless you have reached a different arrangement with us. If you fail to purchase your Minimum Volume Requirement, we may, at our option, either terminate this Agreement and cease delivery of propane to you, adjust the daily price of the Propane we deliver to you, or charge you a Low Usage Fee, and/or increase your Tank Rent to reflect your low usage".

       

      As previously mentioned, *** ******* is not meeting our Minimum Volume Requirement. If *** ******* is interested in a downsize in his tank, he should contact his local service center to discuss his options.

       

      Lastly, the customer mentions a tank pick up request. He will need to contact his local service center to request and schedule a tank pick up as that service is dependent upon a variety of factors including ground condition(s).

       

      Thank you for bringing the customer's concerns to our attention. Please contact me with any further questions or concerns. Thank you.

    • Complaint Type:
      Customer Service Issues
      Status:
      Resolved
      I have called five times and sent one email since April 2nd, have had an emergency order submitted and multiple messages sent to, what I was told, the appropriate managers and I have not received a return call or email to discuss or resolve the issue. There was damage done to my neighbors property during a Ferrellgas delivery on January 11. The delivery was scheduled to be made on Friday, January 5, 2024. I received a message on Monday, January 8, 2024 saying that the delivery could not be made on 1/5/24 because the driveway was not plowed. The driveway was clear, because there was no snow on the ground. I called on 1/8/24 and could not get anyone to speak to. I did a live chat and set up another delivery. Propane was delivered on January 11, 2024. It did snow between 1/9/24 and 1/11/24. Driveway was plowed the morning of 1/11/24 and it was clear for the delivery. When the propane was delivered the driver drove down the neighbors lawn instead of our driveway doing the damage. We received pictures from the neighbor as they were upset about the damage. We did not fully know the damage until the snow melted and we were able to see it in person. As you can see from the pictures attached the gravel driveway was plowed, it has markers down the left hand side as well as snow banks on the sides from plowing. The other pictures show the damage once the snow is gone. There are deep ruts in the grass. We have spent hours trying to fix the ruts because the neighbors are so upset and I have not heard back from the company. The lawn now needs fill and seed for it to be completely fixed. We are now in the process of getting a quote to have the lawn repaired. We are requesting that Farrellgas pays to have the lawn fixed.  

      Business response

      05/15/2024

      Response attached.

      Business response

      06/03/2024

      Response attached.

      The consumer complaint filed by *** ****** has been forwarded to the Ferrellgas Legal Department for investigation and comment. I have completed my investigation, talked to the relevant field personnel, and offer the following response: Our records reveal that on May 24, 2024 a Ferrellgas adjustor spoke with *** ****** regarding the damage claim. It was then identified that the correct claimant was not *** ****** but rather her neighbor. It is my understanding that the claim has been resolved with the correct claimant. Thank you for bringing *** ******’s concerns to our attention. I hope the above resolves any remaining questions or concerns.  

      Customer response

      06/04/2024


      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.

      Sincerely,

      **** ******
    • Complaint Type:
      Delivery Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I Scheduled fuel deliveries for my greenhouse commercial account on the 24th of April. Still no delivery as of may 8th. ***** ****** stated he would get done in 1-2 days. Did not come through. Told me I should cover my plants. I would like a phone call from someone who can do something about it. I am trying to reach someone who can help us.

      Business response

      05/09/2024

      Response attached.

      The consumer complaint filed by ******* ******** has been forwarded to the Ferrellgas Legal Department for investigation and comment. I have completed my investigation, talked to the relevant field personnel, and offer the following response: Unfortunately, we cannot locate an account under the name ******* ******** and due to customer privacy, we cannot provide customer information to a non-party. That said, we are currently not able to address *** ********** ********. If she is able to be added to an existing account as a contact, we would certainly address the concerns at that time.  

    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I bought a bluerhino propane tank from a vending machine and it was rusty and leaked gas on our way with my wife and kids present in the car. When I asked for refund they said I can't get any refund as they don't offer any refunds. This is my first time doing business with Bluerhino and I think they just got $58 from me when their product was faulty and not up to the mark and they are not even offering any refund. I feel I have been baited. I ahbe emails of them saying they can't offer any refund no matter what and my money is stuck now. Thanks ******

      Business response

      05/07/2024

      Response attached.
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I need my gas turned on. They are too ashamed to admit they cut it off, because they know it goes against good morals. Payments were not discussed, they just cut it off. I have achild who has to eat and get ready for school. They told me nothing about cutting my gas off they just did.

      Business response

      05/01/2024

      Response attached.
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Resolved
      On April 8th we had to make an emergency request to have our gas tank turned off since there was a leak. We were called back by emergency tech within 10mins. The techs showed up early the next day (4/9/2024) and found that the main value failure. We had filled the tank October 2023 and it wa found the remaining gas had leaked out. Once technician uploaded report 4 days later we were told that the $232.15 charged would be waived since the issue was with the tank. Also was told we would receive gas 50% Ferrall gas credit and 40% at our cost. We agreed. On 04/15th (7 days later) that an order was placed to refill our tank. To date(4/18/2-24) we are still waiting on gas.. Kept in mind our tank is empty therefore we do not have access to cook etc . We have called twice a day (4/17/2024) to a manger direct (left message) and called the help line as well. Keep in mind everyone is very pleasant and doing their part well. But all promise a call back or followup to issue. No calls have been returned. This mornin I called again. My patients is getting raw. I was polite but again ask for help, We gave no gas and are being held captive at our home afraid to leave in fear we will miss the delivery since our home is gated. All I need is for someone to help us get our gas delivered. It has been 10 days since this has happened. Up to this point we have been happy with the service. But this time when it is badly needed I feel that the service side of getting delvery of gas is less than acceptable

      Customer response

      04/18/2024

      1:30PM Central. Ferrell Gas came through finally and filled our tank.  It seems the issue was with the delivery department.  I am just happy we were finally able to get this issue resolved.  We have been a customer for over 35+ years and never had one issue with this company.  
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      Went into office asked to check tank and fill tank being a new home. They did not check tank just filled with 117 gallons of propane that leaked out into air. At 480$ and no gas. Ferrellgas is responsible for knowingly polluting the air. And nothing happened. I need help I am disabled. Thank you

      Business response

      04/02/2024

      Response attached.

      Customer response

      04/03/2024

       
      Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because:
      I bought a new property and new nothing about propane tank. 

      So like a smart home owner I asked for full complete test of lines and tank. 

      Test was not completed before tank was filled and 3 years of propane lost into air. 

      I did not check propane for months since I hired a company to do what they do for work. 

      I live in Yuma and people come and go I was not in state cam ehome and propane was gone called for service and leaks found in several places. I guess the leaks just happened after 117 gallons at over 500$ was put into tank. 

      This company knows they are wrong and did awful things to to Earth by not doing test before my first fill. Of my unknown tank.

      Nothing except me beingade whole will work. 

      They lie and steal and I am not the only one. 

      We have no way to protect our self from predators like this. 

      Please help them from stealing for the Disabled. 

      Sincerely,



      ******* *********

      Business response

      04/03/2024

      Response attached.
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I am a renter not an owner. I have a FerrellGas account, #*********. FerrellGas refuses to relieve me of responsibility for any damages to a tank on a property for which my lease has ended and from which I have moved away already. They agreed to end "autofill" service but they say I will be responsible for anything that happens to the tank until it is transferred to new "owners". The property was listed for sale and my lease has ended. Here is an excerpt from my online chat with a FerrelGas representative, ********  LW I removed the auto fill on the old tank . Until the tank is transferred you will be responsible for the tank . Me: That is not acceptable. I have moved out. LW I understand . No order are able to be placed under your account . But the tank needs to be moved into new owner name . Me: The property at 4 red hills lane has been listed for sale. It may not be rented again and there is no time frame for when someone else will occupy that property Are you guaranteeing to me here that I will not be charged for future servicing of the tank at 4 red hills lane? LW The landlord will need to call . I have removed the auto fill so no future deliveries will be made . Me: How do you expect me to accept this arrangement? You cannot leave a tank in my name that I have no control over LW I have added a note on the account that you have moved , I Understand but until this is transferred If anything would happen to the tank you would be responsible . Again I removed any future deliveries. I Will send out a letter to the home to make them aware that the tank needs to be transfered . Me: Please contact the owner of the property: ******* ******* ** *********** ***** ********* ** ****** ************ I am retaining this conversation as evidence that I had no control over the tank at * *** ***** ***** ***** *** ** ***** 

      Business response

      04/02/2024

      Response attached.

      To whom it may concern:

      The consumer complaint filed by *** ****** has been forwarded to the Ferrellgas Legal Department
      for investigation and comment. I have completed my investigation, talked to the relevant field
      personnel, and offer the following response:

      *** ******** concern relates to customer service.

      Ferrellgas strives to provide best-in-class customer service, and we regret that *** ****** did not
      receive that level of service. His complaint was forwarded to the relevant field manager. The
      Landlord is responsible for the customer owned propane container and any damage. A Ferrellgas
      representative has tried numerous times to reach the Landlord listed in *** ******’s complaint.
      Additionally, we have attempted to reach out to *** ****** to discuss the above. To date, we have
      not received a response.

      Thank you for bringing this customer’s concerns to our attention. Please contact me with any
      questions or further concerns.

      Sincerely,

      ***** ******
      Paralegal

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