ComplaintsforSwimQwik

• Initial Complaint

  06/11/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  On May 21, I enrolled my daughter in swim ******s, selecting the earliest available date of **** 1 for a group ******* I believed I had signed up for four ******s over a month and could choose convenient dates and times. I was charged $341 for the month.After the **** 1 ******* I tried to book another for **** 4, thinking it would be the second of my four ******s. However, I mistakenly signed up for an additional group ****** and was charged $314. Realizing my error, I contacted the facility on **** 4 to cancel the second ****** and reverse the charge. I left a voicemail and was advised by a swim instructor to email their support team. I emailed them on **** 5, detailing the situation and requesting assistance but received no response. I followed up with another email and voicemail on **** 6, still with no reply.On **** 8, SwimQwik contacted me at a different email, indicating the email I used was unauthorized. I confirmed my identity and explained the issue again. They informed me that I had signed up for two 3-month plans, which was not clear at the time of registration, and they refused to offer support, citing a no-cancellation policy.I responded on **** 10, stating I would not pay for two 3-month plans and could have resolved this issue with timely support. Following this, SwimQwik charged my credit card five times on **** 10, totaling $2100 for future ******s, and cancelled my **** ******s without notice. I had already paid over $600 for **** classes that were now canceled, with no resolution offered.SwimQwiks website does not clearly state the 3-month commitment during sign-up or on the receipt, only in the terms and conditions, which is deceptive. Their customer service is unresponsive, making it impossible to correct mistakes. The portal is misleading, leading to accidental sign-*** for additional ******s or long-term commitments. This company's practices are deceptive, and their customer service is inadequate.

  Business response

  06/14/2024

  ****************,
  
  Your email request was escalated to management for handling.
  
  Thank you kindly for letting us know about your formal request to cancel your swim plans.  The system has processed your cancelation request for both of your purchased monthly group plans per agreed terms in notification to ******************************** cancelation.  
  
  Please be aware that you purchased 3 month swim ****** plans and your cancellation was processed to include these months through the term indicated on your purchase agreement.  Once a cancelation request is received, we are no longer authorized to rely on your method of payment for auto-billing and all monthly invoices are processed to complete the cancelation.
  
  Were sorry you didnt understand your purchase better.  We have this described in several places in our online content and have it clearly described in the purchase agreement we require all customers to sign.  
  
  From your purchase history, it looks like you originally purchased the first monthly group plan in May for Saturdays in which you signed the purchase agreement, processed payment, and were emailed confirmation/reminders.  In June, you then purchased a second plan for Tuesdays in which you then signed an additional purchase agreement and processed an additional payment.   Email confirmation were also sent.  The purchase agreements are very clear on the schedule for group classes and terms.
  
  We see you attempted to contact us last week from an email that is not authorized to your account, yet the email on your account is what was used for your purchases.  You also contacted us by leaving a voicemail; however, we are unable to take verbal request on the phone for changes to your account and require email correspondence for accuracy and documentation.  We then see a followup to the unauthorized email and were able to initiate a support ticket once you verified your identity.   All our support processes were timely and accurate to your inquiries when you contacted us.
  
  We understand from your email that you would have preferred a different class schedule of Tuesdays than ************************* you purchased; however, you didnt contact us beforehand for us to address this with you.  We can only understand best what actions were actually taken in the purchase of two monthly group plans which is very common for our customers. 
  
  In consideration of all of this, its unclear how we could have been more responsive to you.  We see you have used our services before and we are able to verify correspondences in the past from you that suggest a familiarity with us and our policies.  We run the best swim school in the area and provide living wages to our instructors.  We can only do this successfully by having clear and accurately managed policies and procedures.  
  
  At this point, you have two monthly swim plans through August and then one through September.  We are able to offer upgrades of group plans to private ****** plans which can be credited from your purchases.  If this might be beneficial to your family for scheduling flexibility, we can direct our front desk to followup for the upgrade.  Please just let us know if this would be your interest.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  SwimQwik Management
  www.SwimQwik.com

  Customer response

  06/17/2024

   
  Complaint: 21831232
  
  I am rejecting this response because: this business not only billed me in advance for swim lessons we did not take, which is outside of their policy to bill on the 1st of each month. I have 5 charges on my credit card for June 10 totaling approx. $1500. On June 10 the business also cancelled all swim lessons which means the ones I had already paid for totaling more than $700 I couldn't use either. They have taking approx. $2000 and have denied swim lessons at this point. Additionally, it took them over 5 business days to contact me via email as they do not have any phone support which is not posted anywhere on their site or on their voice mail. I could have easily explained that I inaccurately signed up for 2 plans immediately if I could have gotten ahold of t hem. Lastly, NO WHERE, but their T&Cs does it state on their site the monthly plan is a 3-month commitment. Please note there are also several of the exact same complaints on yelp staking their shady business practices of taking money and not being clear about their services. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  *********************

  Business response

  07/12/2024

  To whom it may concern,

  We have provided a clear and considerate reply to this complaint.  We are a business to this customer, not an individual in direct conflict with another individual.  We don't appreciate the BBB calling out individuals in our business and putting them at risk of harassment.  We have asked several time now that they protect the privacy of our staff.

  The customer agreed to the terms and conditions of their purchase.  We have provided considerate follow-up to the customer to help them better understand the agreement and have understood they don't want to fulfill their commitment to the agreement.  They have the ability to receive the full benefit of their purchase; however, we are unable to provide them service while they are disputing their committment with the business.  We are happy to service their purchase once they assume their responsibility to the purchase agreement.

  Sincerely,

  SwimQwik Management

  Customer response

  07/16/2024

   
  Complaint: 21831232
  
  I am rejecting this response because: In no way have I ever called out specific individuals of this entity. I have clearly stated several times to this business that I did not mean to purchase the 2nd 3-month package which would now give me 8 lessons for 1 child in a month, which is ridiculous. I called and left them a message to rectify immediately, which they then took 6 days to get back to me with a response of too bad so sorry for your mistake. 

  Originally, I thought I bought 1 month of swim lessons. After the first month, I purchased what I though was a second month of lessons, however each purchase case with a 3-month minimum (for some reason 4 months were applied the first time), which I wasn't aware of. As soon as I realized this, I contacted them on the same day to cancel the second set of lessons. They took 6 days to respond, refused and immediately billed me for 5 additional months of lessons (7 total). I have contested the additional 5 months (which where all charged on the same day of June 10, plus two hold fees of $100 each, that I didn't realize I was purchasing and haven't received services for. I thought I was purchasing $600 in lessons and instead was charged $2000 in lessons. 

  This is not a new business practice for this company, if you read any of the reviews you can see this is a very common practice of charging for lessons that folks don't need and the pain of trying to cancel lessons and get ahold of anyone in person at this company. It's very shady business practices, and in ********** state any legal document has 3 days to contest and revoke after signing which I tried to do if they would have gotten back to me in a reasonable timeframe or had any sort of phone service to explain the mistake of booking two 3-months lessons for 1 child. 

  Sincerely,
  
  *********************

• Initial Complaint

  08/25/2023

  Complaint Type:

  Order Issues

  Status:

  Unanswered

  More info

  SwimQwik (formally SwimLab) has charged my credit card twice now months after my daughters swim ****** package was cancelled, done, and completed. I emailed to complain and request a refund but have not received a response. There is no explanation of charges and no one to speak with in person at the facility. I went on ****** to leave a bad review and it looks like i am one of MANY others having this same issue. Something needs to be done about this place. It's a scam charging customers hundreds of dollars after cancelling their swim ******s. I went online to try and remove my credit card and there is no way to remove your payment information. According to online reviews, this place has been making unauthorized charges for years. Please help.

• Initial Complaint

  02/08/2023

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  On 1/30, I was charged 2 times for $420.68. On 1/31 I was charged 3 times for $415.16. That is a total of $2,086.84! I only meant to sign up for 1 private monthly ****** for a 12 and 13-year-old. Swimqwik doesn't answer their phone (only messages can be left), and all communication is via email which does not allow room for clarification or additional help. I would like a refund for the ******s I was charged for, or allowed to be given a credit. **************** is lacking.

  Business response

  02/09/2023

  To whom it may concern,

  This customer received timely and accurate responsiveness to their inquiries.  The business does not provide refunds for purchases made with clear understanding of the terms/conditions of the purchase.  Please rely on the following for communication of this to the customer.  Our business insures we can provide the highest quality swim instructing with the best swim facility in the area.  This relies customers to meet their contractual agreements in the commitment towards our program and offerings.

   

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  Hi *****,
  
  Thank you kindly for your patience to allow us to look into your account.  We want to insure you were provided accurate and timely information in support of your purchase decisions and that the requests for changes to your plans was processed correctly.
  
  From your account records and your correspondence with our front desk, we see you purchased two Monthly Private Plans on Jan 28th.  These were purchased for two different children on your account (********** and ******).  We have on file the purchase agreements for these purchases (please see attached) and can confirm email notifications for the purchases and scheduled ******s. 
  
  
  
  
  
  From the correspondence, we see you were provided information concerning how private ******s can be shared and the ages related to how many can share in one ******.  You requested an exception to this policy of putting your *************************************** the same ****** and the front staff reminded you of the purchase policy that does not include this combination of participates.   You then requested to put your 10 year old into a group class and have the older children share private ******s.  This was a cancellation of one of your Monthly Private Plans and then instruction was provided to you on how to enroll your 10 year old into group ******s. 
  
  Concerning the fees related to your purchases, each monthly plan is $400/mo for 4 visits a month with a 3 month minimum.  The first payment is prorated if the plan is started late into the month and the remaining payments are made in monthly installments.  The plan will renew after the monthly installments unless we are notified by the account holder to cancel.  On cancellation, all outstanding installment payments are due and processed.  This should help explain the fees on the purchase of your plan as when you requested one of the Monthly Private Plans to be cancelled, the remaining installment payments were then due and processed. 
  
  Presently, you have two Monthly Private plans. One of them is scheduled to expire after the 3 month term.  We see you did not enroll your 10 year old into a group ******.  It seems like your best value with your purchases would be to schedule private ******s for your 10 year on one of these Monthly Plans and schedule private ******s on the other Monthly Plan for your older children to share.  For instance, you would schedule ******s for ****** and then just email us to add your 10 year old to those ******s.  ****** would not attend and the 10 year old would take the ******s alone.  You would then schedule ******s for ********** and then just email us to add ****** to the ******s.  They would both then attend these ******s.  All of these ******s can be scheduled at: **********************************************************
  
  Hope that clears things up better for your family.  Well look forward to seeing everyone at the pools.
  
  Sincerely,.
  
  SwimQwik Management

  Customer response

  02/09/2023

   
  Complaint: 19369153
  
  I am rejecting this response because: I signed up for the second class because it was not showing up after the first purchase and I was worried if the students were not both listed they would not be able to do the lessons. If the business doesnt provide refunds, fine, but I would at least like a credit for the class that I cancelled since it will not be used in the 30 day monthly window. My other  concern is that I dont know who I am exchanging messages with and think this is an unreasonable way to treat a customer. I have no intention of harming this business. I have been a patron for quite some time before the name change. Its a shame they may lose me as a customer because of their handling of this situation. I think this could easily been solved over the phone if they had a customer service representative I could have spoken to at sign up. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ********************************

• Initial Complaint

  01/12/2023

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I enrolled the monthly plan at SwimQwik, which could allow me to take 4 classes in a month and the time of the 4 classes are not fixed, but based on whatever times I schedule on its online scheduling system. I scheduled a class at 9am of November 20,2022. The class time was posted on their online scheduling system and because it's the only available time for me to take a class in November, I selected the time. I was at the swimming school on time that morning and the coach was also there. However the school was closed and we tried to call the coach who carries the key, no answer. We were locked outside. Thus my class was missed. I contacted SwimQwik since then and asked to get a make-up class. After a couple of time email follow up, finally, 53 days after this incident, they replied me and refused to offer a make up. Since they refused, I would like a refund. I don't want to pay for their fault. (The attached screenshots show in my SwimQwik account, the system sent me the reminder of the 11/20 9 am class I scheduled)

  Customer response

  01/17/2023

  Because I file a claim on BBB earlier on SwimQwik, they canceled the class I have already scheduled and paid for without refunding me and stating that they cannot offer service to customers when an active complaint is filed against the business. Only if I rescind the claim, they could resume the service to me. I cannot believe this is their way to handle a customer claim. Since they cannot service me, I would like a refund.

  Business response

  01/18/2023

  To whom it may concern,
  
  This customer is using the ******************** in an attempt to breach their contractual agreement.  We teach children to swim through reasonable agreements with customers. This customer agreed to our terms/conditions before making a purchase.  When we make an exception to these terms and conditions, we need to offer this to all our customers. This customer is requesting an exception to our agreement terms that would undermine the quality and consistently of our business, cause disruption to our operations, and result in additional expenses that would increase our prices. We are unable to accommodate this customers request for the exception and need to now charge the customer for this disruption to our business processes through the BBB complaint.  The customer agreed to be charged for any fees and administrative expenses related to disputes.  We cannot provide service to a customer that is publicly disputing their signed purchase agreement.
  
  SwimQwik Management

  Customer response

  01/19/2023

  Complaint: 18827333
  
  I am rejecting this response because:theres no reason you collected my money but didnt provide service to me just because I filed a complaint on an issue with a previous service. Theres no term in the contract saying if I choose to learn swim at your school I forfeit the right to file a complaint. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  Zhijun Ma

• Initial Complaint

  08/22/2022

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  On 4/23/22, my wife (***********************) purchased 6 individual swimming lessons @ $154.14 each, using our Discover Credit Card ending in **** for a total of $925.14. When booking the actual lessons, she noticed that there was an additional fee of $4.19 that would be charged each time. This specific fee was not disclosed at the time of the original purchase. The company doesn't answer their phone/provide phone based customer service, so she emailed them pointing this out and asked for a refund of all charges. The initial response was that the person responding to the emails didn't have authority to provide refunds and that someone from "management" would get back to us. After much back and forth, they said that they wouldn't provide a refund and at that point wouldn't allow us to schedule the actual lessons. At this point the company has basically stolen this $925.14 from us, refused to provide services and it is basically impossible to get a hold of anyone who knows anything or has authority to make decisions.

  Business response

  08/23/2022

  To whom it may concern,

  Before any customer is allowed to purchase a product from the business, they are provided the folloiwng description in every purchase ".....There is a processing fee..".  This customer was kindly followed up with and giving couretous replies and assistance with their purchase.  They insisted on a refund in which was also state in all descriptions ".... All purchases are final.".  They are unfortunatley using threats to received special consideration.  They have received full benefit of their purchase with unrestricted opportunity to schedule their lessons within the terms of the offering.  This customer disputed this with the merchant services provider and, in arbitration, was not allowed a refund based on thier acceptance of the terms/conditions of the purchase.
  

   

  Thank you,

  SwimQwik Management

  Customer response

  08/23/2022

  Complaint: 17754136
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

  The merchant needs to do the right thing and refund us our money, it's unconscionable that they'd keep $900+ without delivering any service. Anyone with that attitude and lack of ethics should not be in business.

  To this point we've made no threats as they claim (it would be impossible to do so because there's no way to actually talk to anyone with decision making capabilities at the company over the phone, we've left voicemails and receive a text message saying that they don't have phone based support), we're simply using the methods available to us to get a resolution such as going through our credit card company, BBB, potential legal action, etc.

  Their response is a lie, and the fact that they're now making a libelous claim that we've threatened them just shows how irresponsible, hostile & unreasonable they have been throughout this process. If someone from the company wants to discuss with me directly, I can be reached at ************.

  
  Sincerely,
  
  *************************

• Initial Complaint

  04/29/2022

  Complaint Type:

  Sales and Advertising Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  On April 2nd, 2022, we attempted to re-schedule a swim ****** we had already paid for as part of a 3-month package with SwimQwik and were forced to sign a contest form as part of the rescheduling process. After finding a new date and time for the swim ****** and signing the consent form, we were charged with our credit card on file for the amount of $169.93. After seeing the transaction post on our bank statement, on April 5th, we alerted the business of the incorrect transaction and after repeated attempts to reach out via phone and email, they will not refund the charge and will now be billing us $350 for the next 3 months due to being forced to re-sign a consent form online when trying to reschedule a ******. The consent form, which we had already agreed to as part of the initial transaction forced us to sign up for 3 additional months of ******s without our acknowledgement. Prior to this transaction we had already given notice to the business that we would no longer like to continue with ******s and they agreed to the cancellation. We have worked with our bank to dispute the charge and put a stop payment but would prefer to settle this directly with SwimQwik. Thank you for helping us settle this dispute!

  Business response

  05/12/2022

  To whom it may concern,

  We continue to see little value in the BBB process for compliant resolution.  This resource does not provide any arbitration or investigation of claims.  Customers make false accusations and threats, post inaccuracies, and expect the business to pay.  This customer provided the email thread showing considerate and consistent replies to requests for exceptions to our purchasing policy. The customer was provided every opportunity to understand our offerings before making a purchase.  And then asked for a refund.  This is not our purchasing policy which is clearly communicated in all descriptions of our services BEFORE the customer makes a purchase decision.  This is also clearly explained in our term/conditions agreement that the customers signs BEFORE making the purchase.

  We would look forward to a third party reviewing the specifics of the claims.

  Thank you,

  SwimQwik 

  Customer response

  05/13/2022

   
  Complaint: 17126189
  
  I am rejecting this response because: an employee of SwimQwik instructed us to reschedule a swim ****** that was part of our initial purchase agreement using their online portal. After picking the new date and time for our ******, we were forced to re-sign the same consent form which was for an existing 3-month agreement we purchased and used as part of swim ******s for our children. There was no way to reschedule our ****** without being forced to sign a consent form. Once again, an employee of SwimQwik instructed us to follow this path which has led us to a fraudulent and manipulate process. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  *****************

  Business response

  05/16/2022

  There is really nothing to add.  We continue to find BBB not a relevant service to resolving customer disputes.  If ******************** would like to serve as an arbitrator, we would be happy to introduce a third party into the review of issues.  At present, BBB allows anything to be posted and implied against a business when a customer would like to breach their contract and/or makes demands that are unhealthy for the business.

  Customer response

  05/19/2022

   
  Complaint: 17126189
  
  I am rejecting this response because: the business cannot prove the reschedule a ****** process is not broken. It is manipulative and fraudulent to force a current customer to sign a consent form and trick them into a new contract. We honored the original contract issued by SwimQwik and therefore we dont owe them over $1000 for a ****** we rescheduled and already paid for. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  *****************

  Business response

  06/15/2022

  To whom it may concern,

   

  Please refer to the attached signed contract that was voluntarily agreed to by the customer. 

   

  ********************** Management.

  Customer response

  06/16/2022

   
  Complaint: 17126189
  
  I am rejecting this response because: at the instruction of a SwimQwik employee to reschedule a ****** that we already paid for, we were forced to sign a consent form. There was no other way to pick and date and time for a makeup ****** than to sign a form. The understanding when signing the form according to their online scheduling was to acknowledge our previous agreement. After selecting the makeup class, there was no way to tell that this was signing up for additional ******s. We will not be held accountable for this contract as we already agreed to it for our ****** package. All we were doing was reserving the spot for a makeup ******. 

  
  

  Sincerely,
  
  *****************

• Initial Complaint

  03/29/2022

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  We have been paying for our Granddaughter to have swim classes at this business for a while. The instructors are wonderful!! When you try to cancel your participation in these classes the management make it so you cant by not having any management present on site, they dont answer the phone or return phone messages. The also dont respond to any email... which is what they require you to do to cancel your services. They require you leave a credit card on file for you to participate at their facility but wont respond for you to cancel. We attempted to contact them via both phone and email for *************** 2 months and they havent responded and they do continue to charge my card monthly. My daughter (***********************) first called them and left a message on January 15th 2022 to cancel her daughters ( ********************* ) swim classes after her last class on January 9th. She then emailed to cancel on February 1st and again on the 24th of February. All with no response from the management. I emailed and called on March 28th and again on the 29th with a phone call. I honestly wonder if there is anyone running this business. I expect to be refunded for the February and March reoccurring payment and any future billing to stop now!!

  Business response

  04/05/2022

  To whom it may concern,

   We are unable to confirm the credentials of this person.  We do not have this person as a client or associated, in any way, with an account.  We cannot address the specifics of any of the claims.  

  We continue to find the BBB not serving a positive function in business dealings with customers.  There is no true arbitration of specifics and validation of facts.  

  Sincerely,

  SwimQwik Management

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