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    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Resolved
      Bought a car from them april 1st, have it financed/leased for the next 4 years. They told me at point of sale all that was wrong with the car was the suspension was bad and the exhaust was bad. Turns out exhaust is fine, but turns out my right front tires strut is just hanging loose my power steering is bad and my serpentine belt has a bunch of cracks and both my lowbeam headlights went out. They sold me a car with problems that weren't noted which means the dealership had rights to sell it to me for ***** but with all these things wrong that i found out with going to get the oil changed its definitely for sure that these things were wrong when they had it on lot just didnt disclose it my car is more worth ***** or less. I believe this is more worth fraud because they left all of it out and sold me a car way over what its worth. All of these things could not be seen without lifting the car or a full engine inspection. They told me they had their mechanics check it on sight.

      Business response

      07/30/2024

      We are very sorry to hear about the issues you are having with the car. We will be reaching out to you to set up a good time to bring it in for us to address the concerns. 

      Customer response

      07/30/2024

      [A default letter is provided here which indicates your acceptance of the business's response.  If you wish, you may update it before sending it.]

      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me. 

      Regards,

      *******************************
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      On 2-19-2024 I bought a 2013 ram 2500 with 6.7 Cummins diesel engine. It was dark when I bought it and the only things disclosed were the windows had tint on them and a plow mount was on the vehicle. The next morning I happened to be under the truck and noticed the emissions system had been removed and deleted from the truck. I called Chippewa valley Mazda and they said they knew it had been deleted and tuned and refused to pay for the repair to have an emissions system installed.

      Business response

      02/22/2024

      Chippewa Valley Mazda was made aware of the customers concern the following morning after purchase when they called into the store on Tuesday February 20th. The initial conversation with the stores General Sales Manager culminated with an apology from the dealer and the need to investigate the situation further within our reconditioning notes.

      Upon further review, the ******* delete was in fact discovered and notated during inspection on December 22nd 2023 however, human error resulted in it not being properly disclosed alongside the aftermarket tint, plow wiring and fifth wheel hitch when the ********* Buyers Guide was produced on January 10th.
      Given the nature of the situation and the expense associated with getting the vehicle back to factory stock specifications, Chippewa Valley Mazda has offered a 100% repurchase of the vehicle or full trade credit towards another vehicle within our automotive group.
      Unsatisfied with this resolution, the customer informed the dealer that they would be exploring alternate avenues that would require the dealer to restore the vehicle back to stock components.
      Chippewa Valley Mazda feels confident that our offer to the customer is not only 100% fair, but satisfactory for both parties involved. There was never any mal-intent on behalf of the dealership and we will continue to honor this resolution until March 5th 2024 fifteen days after the vehicle purchase date.
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      Hello, I purchased a vehicle form them around June 27th of this year. i purchased the car with a full warranty through Mazda, for $3,000 I have put around $6,000 as a nonpayment, and a loan of $8,517.56. I have paid $918.56 towards the loan. I was sold a car that was supposedly in working condition. When I left the lot i began getting error notifications for the Drivetrain and wheel. I also noticed that the car was not up to date electronically. I had to wait about a week before they could get the car into the shop. After multiple days they called me back and told me that it needed a lot of work, and that they would need to have it for awhile to send it off to another body shop. They told me to take the car in the meantime as they didn't have a loaner available. Then after over 2 months of waiting, they got back to me and set me up to take a rental while it was in the shop. It took them another two weeks before i was told my car was done and could be taken. When i arrived it was as the store was closing for the day. I was quickly given a report paper that had no details of the work they did, and the worker told me everything was fine and that i can take it again. I started my car up and was greeted with the same exact error messages i had been trying to get them to fix. My drivetrain was setting off errors, my tire was FLAT, i repeat FLAT when they told me to take off. I drove to multiple gas stations to try and get air into the wheel, and i am not able to now, so they had to have broken my tires valve.Now after months of trying to contact them, they will not contact me back, and they are obviously unable to keep up there end of the warranty. I feel completely ignored and helpless. i have months of chats saying they will reach out to help me without anyone actually getting a hold of me.

      Business response

      10/19/2023

      The first repair order for the customer's vehicle was created on July 7th, 2023 a total of 21 days after the purchase. The customer was stating they were receiving an error message involving the drivetrain. With the nature of the concern for a 2012 **** we informed the customer that we would need to sublet the work to a shop capable of performing an accurate diagnostic on the vehicle. With the customer needing a loaner while his *** was being worked on, he was placed on our loaner list and contacted to drop off his vehicle on August 23rd, 2023. 

      The sublet shop at that point had the vehicle for a total of 13 days but were unsuccessful in duplicating the customers' concerns. With the vehicle having no active codes and operating as it should be, the vehicle was returned to Chippewa Valley Mazda and redelivered to the customer.  
      After taking the vehicle back on September 6th, the customer texted into our BDC informing us that the vehicle was now losing air in the rear left tire and expressed concerns that nothing was done to fix his vehicle. This message was mistakenly not forwarded to the sales or service teams, which resulted in no follow-up from the dealership.  
      Prior to the BBB complaint, the sales team, or more specifically the General Sales Manager, had no prior knowledge that the customer was having issues with their vehicle. For the past three days he has been attempting to speak with ***** over the phone to coordinate a plan to address his concerns and make sure the vehicle is fully operational.  
      The service manager and general sales manager attempted calls on both October 16th and 17th that went to voicemail. The *** did finally connect with the customer via text on October 18th and confirmed a call at 5:10pm would work for all parties involved. However, two attempts to call at 5:11pm and 5:23pm both went to voicemail.  
      As of writing, the dealership has still not received a phone call from the customer. 
      Although a lapse of communication between departments created a very poor experience for Aldin, our intentions are to validate and address the customers concerns in a timely manner from here on out. Chippewa Valley Mazda is requesting an open line of communication directly with either their Service Manager or General Sales Manager to do exactly that.  

      Customer response

      10/25/2023

      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint.  For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.

      [Please type your response here.]

      Regards,

      *********************

      Customer response

      10/30/2023

      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint.  For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.

      [The car has had issues the day after the purchase, my mother, father, and I continuously called and messaged the dealership to no avail. I agree that it took a total of 21 days for them to respond and check my car. I continued, from the start, to tell them that there was multiple things wrong with the car, the drivetrain was sending errors, my rear left wheel was constantly loosing air, they also needed to be calibrated correctly, and they had told me that they would need to send it off to be updated when I purchased the vehicle. Other than that I was never informed that they wouldn't be able to work on my car. After I brought it into the shop for a day, I was told that they needed it sent off to another shop and to just take my car back in the meantime. According to there response it took them from July 7th to August 23rd, a total of 48 days of me having to drive my car with issues. All this time I am running out of my warranty which I paid a lot for. I didn't think it would have to take that long on a warranty to get a diagnosis. They took it for another 13 days, and supposedly couldn't figure an issue, but when I picked up the car it had a flat tire with constant errors messages as soon as I drove it. Not only that but after they repeated driving it without re-airing the rear tire it now struggles to intake any air, as though the valve has stopped working. Also it had a new knocking noise. After no help from them we decided to go through with a BBB complaint in hopes of some resolution. I began receiving texts from them, asking me to join a call between myself and there two employees, I believe were management. I informed my mother of the situation and asked she would sit in with me on the call. The day of the call I had shown my mother the text messages, where they stated, "ultimately, if you remove the BBB complaint for now while we coordinate a time to connect and figure out a game plan on fixing the **** that'd save a lot of headaches." They also informed me that they needed to respond to the complaint by the next day, which was only 5 days after they received the complaint. We found this again to be deceitful and one of the reasons why we went through the BBB process in the first place. I responded in letting them know I would be going through the BBB, as that was the only way I could foresee a resolution. They responded by complaining that they had to stay late for me. Again I found this to be incredibly unprofessional and terrible customer service.]

      Regards,

      *********************

      Business response

      11/03/2023

      Chippewa Valley Mazda continues to stand behind their previous response and is offering to address the concerns echoed by the customer. We cannot alter the prior poor experiences expressed in both responses but agree the vehicle deserves to be looked at again and serviced to ensure it is operating correctly. 

      After receiving the customers most recent response, the General Sales Manager again attempted to reach out via phone and text. A voicemail was left on Tuesday October 31st at 10:07am with a text message sent shortly after.Both messages simply reiterated the need to establish communication in order to have the vehicle serviced in a timely manner.

      As of writing, we have yet to receive a text reply or returned phone call. 

      It has now been a little over two weeks since the initial complaint was filed; and any notion of deceit or unprofessionalism regarding the removal of the complaint was truthfully never intended. We do, however,believe the quickest path towards a resolution requires direct communication between both parties and feel confident in providing that with the added involvement from our General Sales Manager. 
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I am a ********* resident. I purchased a used 2012 **** F-150 from Morries Chippewa Valley Mazda in April of 2019 for just over $30,000 with added warranty. They certified that it was in one accident and that it wasnt a salvage title. They also certified there is no evidence or knowledge of frame damage or frame repair. I am now trying to trade the truck in to get a new vehicle and multiple dealerships are refusing to purchase it for a reasonable price because they are saying that it has a salvage/branded title. Dealership trade is is approximately ****** to ******, depending on what site I check. One dealership offered 5-7 thousand. Morries *************** offered ****** stating its against company policy to sell it on the lot with that title.When I told them that is how I bought it from their dealership in *********, they stated there is nothing they can do because that dealership has been sold and is no longer under the Morries name. I have been to Morries *************** a few time to try to come to resolution and they are stating not their problem and there is nothing they can do. I have had a mechanic look at it as well and he stated there is evidence of frame damage and corrections. I have contacted an attorney in ********* and *********. The ********* attorney suggested I contact the Wisconsin DMV dealership complaint department which I have done but not heard back from them yet. I believe that Morries Chippewa Valley knowingly sold me a salvage/branded vehicle at a price that was reasonable for a non branded title vehicle. I believe they lied intentionally to get rid of a vehicle that should not have been sold at their dealership.

      Business response

      10/02/2023

      Customer purchased the car on 4/25 of 2019 from ******'s Chippewa Valley Mazda. The truck was sold to them not as a salvaged title but as a clean title with additional comments of Claim Paid. This is not a Salvage branded title in the state of *********. 
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      My wife and I were going to buy a 2016 Chevrolet Suburban from this Mazda dealer on July 16 of the past year. We saw there was rust around the rear doors at the lower part of the vehicle. At that point we were going to walk away from the sale but the sales manager came out and said he would fix the rust for us. At signing we were also told if we purchased the "undercoating" after the rust was repaired this would make it unlikely for it to come back. We purchased the vehicle and the undercoating and picked it up a couple weeks later looking like new. Six months later the rust on both sides that were repaired, in the exact same spots came back and is worse then before it was repaired. The sales manager I spoke with said they will not be backing their rust removal work and that this "just happens". He did say they would refund the undercoating but I feel like we were duped into buying a $38000 vehicle that now looks terrible. I would assume that fixing the rust would mean more than a quick sand smooth and repaint. We would have never bought the vehicle had we known it would look like this again in six months. I have contacted the sales team multiple times on this and I have an email saying we could trade the vehicle in to them for a loss and or get the undercoating refunded. All we want to resolve this is for them to properly take care of the rust like they said they were going to do. I'm not a auto body technician but it seems unreasonable that the rust returned after only six months. We have pictures and documentation to back up our claims.

      Business response

      03/28/2023

      Our management staff is reaching out to the customer to see about working through a solution. 
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      -Swag bar bad.-Sensors all coming on.-Battery has to get jumped.-Can't currently get In my car or start it as doors r locked.-bought my car 9-2-2022 a month and 3 days ago.- had to get it jumped.-complained several times.-took it in.-they said they would put it on the lot as is.-they said all the problems were disclosed when I bought it witch was a lie. Who would buy a vehicle with problems. There's much more.- my car is a 2011 cadillac srx. -currently got it jumped yesterday 2 times and the day before 1 time.-**** was dealing with me as a manager and ******. - I can't send anything as it's in my car. (All my paperwork)- I have ALOT more to say about problems on my car.

      Business response

      10/10/2022

      Chippewa Valley Mazda is very familiar with the concerns that *************************** has provided in this complaint. Since the time of purchase,we have worked to address every concern Laken has had with the vehicle without asking for any additional payment to cover shop time or necessary fixes.

      Although some of the concerns have been valid the majority we were either unable to duplicate or are normal for a 2011 Cadillac with ******* miles. Vehicles of this age and mileage are sold as-is within our auto-group when customers opt out of any available extended service coverage.

      Shortly after sale, the initial complaints were as follows:

      Driver side mirror: Found it was a bad connection.We covered the $140 fix.
      Back Up Camera: Working as intended
      Drives slow then fast: Couldnt recreate on test drive with customer.
      Speakers by windshield dont work: Speakers work.They were zoned to the rear only.
      Need to hold button to open sunroof shade: Working as intended
      Window goes up and down and doesnt stop: Working as intended (Automatic Windows)
      Two interior trim piece concerns: Both passed on and sold as-is given vehicle age/mileage
      Tire leaking air: Confirmed concern and repaired tire at no-cost.

      As recently as yesterday (10/6) we were informed that our ******* location (who previously inspected the Cadillac) found that the sway links should be replaced. We communicated with ***** that this was a valid miss when it went through their reconditioning process and that we would again cover the fix.

      In the same conversation, we were informed for the first time about the battery issue that was mentioned in this complaint. It was explained by our Sales Manager, ****, that because we have no affiliation with the shop it was currently at (***** Auto) that we would need to verify any concern/recommended repair before offering to cover any cost to fix.

      We feel as a dealership that we have been forthcoming with our efforts to maintain continuous communication with Laken, address her concerns as theyve come and provide a high level of goodwill.
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I recently purchased a vehicle from Chippewa Valley Mazda (Around September 14th). Asking price was around 29k, a 2015 ****** 4runner. I was intrigued by the dealership because they offered free delivery within 350 miles. *** salesman did a walk through video of the car, and highlighted the only thing wrong with the vehicle was the rear window did not roll down and it had an aftermarket trailer brake. He said its thirty thousand dollars, Its a clean car. I tried to budge on the price or have them repair the window, they declined and said it would be at my expense of 2500$. Due to the recent vehicle shortage, I proceeded with the purchase because I really needed a car. *** car was delivered, and aside from being very clean, I was less than disappointed. *** horn does not work. *** seats have small rips, the interior is majorly scratched/damaged/tattered. *** car came with two vehicle lights on, a check engine light and a traction light. *** ecoboost mode also switches on and off daily. *** drivers forgot the license plates for the vehicle, and the spare key. So the dealership had to mail them to me. On October 16th (less than a month and 200 miles later) I was driving the vehicle and left stranded. *** car shut off at a gas station and would not restart. I ended up being towed, and had to replace the alternator. *** check engine lights are still on. I tried contacting the dealership to make things right via phone call in October. I then wrote a review online. ***y responded to my online review and told me to call them. I called twice and left 2 voicemails with no reply. I was left with a 400$ repair ****, a 200$ towing ****, and a car that still does not run properly (numerous lights remain on), no working horn, and no rolling window. To top it off they promised me the lowest financing possible with their service, and I found lower financing at numerous banks. Terrible dealership

      Business response

      11/22/2021

      We apologize for the miscommunication on the non-returned voicemail. We have tried to reach back out to ***** and left a voicemail to discuss the issues she has had with the 2015 4runner since purchase. We were aware of the back window issue, which was put on the ********* Buyers guide at the time of sale. ***** was also aware of this as she signed the Buyers Guide,that stated rear window inop. As far as the warning lights and horn we were unaware of these issues.  With the alternator, that is a component of a car that can fail at any time and is not controllable by a dealership. We are looking forward to *****s call back to discuss what we can do to help her with the other issues she has had since the time of purchase.   
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      On September 17th 2021 I went to morrie's mazda to get new tires put on a spare pair of rims I had and then mount and balance them onto my vehicle. I go to get them on and the next day my vehicle starts shaking. I then took my vehicle to Youngstedts in ********** to get an alignment, thinking that was the root of the shaking. The Manager at Youngstedts informed me that a balance was never done or it was done so poorly it needed to be redone, so I had them do the balance and alignment. I contact Morries the next day and inform them that the balance was a total of 3 ounces off and that I would like to be refunded for the ****** I gave them for a mount and balance since it was not completed as well as the ***** for the Youngstedts **** to fix their mistakes . Morries then stated that they will look into that and get back to me. 2 days later I go to sell my old rims to a guy off ********** and my rims are scratched, dinged and have the nice chrome that was once on there chipped off near the bolts. Obviously and for good reason he turned them down. I bring the rims to them, they take pictures and say they will get back to me. Each time I would try to get some answers their excuse was always either I was stuck in a meeting or the person who worked on the vehicle is out. Over a month later I finally had enough and got ahold of the General Manager and I send him the pictures of my rims before and after. They're continuing to claim that the rims were not damaged at their shop but the last place my vehicle was serviced was at Gross Motors in *********** ** prior to being at their shop. I have the shop manager at Gross willing to personally attest that the damage on the rims were not there when I had my vehicle at Gross. Morries is willing to refund me the ****** and the ***** but are refusing to refund me for my rims they damaged. They want to send them in to be redone. I do not want that. The estimated value of the rims are ******. I want to be refunded for my rims.

      Business response

      10/29/2021

      ********************* returned to our facility over a week after the (customer provided) new rims were installed with new tires purchased here. She claimed that when we balanced the newly mounted tires, they were causing a vibration when driving over 60 mph. At the time of customer bringing this to our attention she had already had the tires re-balanced and an alignment (which was not requested of us at time of mounting) preformed at another facility (Youngstedts) on 09/23/2021. The customer also informed me that she intended to sell her used wheels but now couldn't because they appeared to be damaged. The damage as noted on the wheels looked like common plastic chrome peeling and corrosion from under the finish as expected with an 8-year-old vehicle with 125k miles that is subject to ********* *******.

       I informed the customer that I would need to speak with the technician about the condition of the wheels prior to the work being completed as well as attempt to find any pictures from time of sale. The technician conformed that the wheels DID indeed look peeled and corroded at time of vehicle arrival. We were unsuccessful in finding any pictures from original sale of the vehicle. 

      I initially had offered to reimburse the customer for the rebalance of the tires. I also requested pictures (if she had any) of the wheels prior to the service. ***** responded with pictures of the vehicle that included the wheels. The pictures were taken at the time of body repairs due to some sort of collision. Unfortunately, the quality of the pictures she provided was very low (can forward if needed) and there is absolutely no way to show if the was or was not any damage to any of the wheels (1 picture dated for 5/12/21). ***** also responded with the expectation that we purchase 4 new wheels via information she provided from an online source. 

      Our General Manager ********************* reached out to ***** and offered to have the take-off rims refurbished (they would look like new when completed and only take about 3-5 business days to complete this process). **** also offered to reimburse her for her expected amount related to the Balance and alignment, in order to accommodate the customer since the vehicle was purchased here at our facility.   Customer refused to have the rims refurbished. ***** stated "Due to the absence of accountability I will be referring to the better business bureau for the matter on my rims if I do not get my money for the rims your shop destroyed."  

      We do not agree with ***** that the corrosion and peeling on the wheels would have been caused by simply removing them from the vehicle. We do however stand behind our product and whole heartedly care for our customers.  Therefore, we offered not only to reimburse the balance and alignment, but to also agreed to repair the wheels at no charge to her in attempt to repair the relationship with the customer and the trust in our facility.  We issued a check via **** for the amount of $205.95 as requested by ***** for reimbursement of the balance and alignment. ***** refused any further offers above and beyond that. 

      I hope the information provided helps resolve this issue

      Sincerely,

      *********************
      Service Manager 
      Chippewa Valley Mazda

      Customer response

      11/01/2021

      Upon reading the reponse I do not agree with Morrie's statement that the technician said that the rims came in corroded and chipped. My vehicle was serviced at Gross motors prior to being serviced at Morrie's and the tech who worked on my vehicle and the General Manager who inspected my vehicle are both willing to personally attest to the condition that my old rims came into their shop. They stated that the rims had minor corrosion in one of the bolt holes (as seen below in 2 of the photos) but as for the rest of the rims, they did not have the damage that they do now. Morrie's Mazda continues to claim that their shop had not damaged my rims but the last place that my vehicle was serviced prior to it coming to Morrie's was Gross Motors, and as stated above my rims did not have the damage they did now. There seems to be some confusion as I also did not state that I would like Morrie's to purchase new rims, I am only asking that they reimburse me for the amount that the rims they damaged are worth. They state that they want to send in my rims to be refurbished but I denied their offer due to the fact that I do not wish to drag this whole ordeal on for another **** days. I am done being pushed around by this business and wish to get my money for the damaged caused on my rims and have no further contact with this business.

      Business response

      11/09/2021

      As the customer stated there was corrosion on the wheel prior to being in with our facility, as to what extent is hard to verify at this point.the only "before" pictures provided by the customer were at such a poor quality when zooming in on the wheel it is hard to tell either way. *** chrome coating on the wheel (Chrysler calls them Chrome Clad) which is essentially a chrome plastic type finish over the metal wheel . *** type of peeling she is experiencing is very common with the age of this vehicle in our climate, especially if the wheels have corrosion starting in the lug nut indentation (as noted by the customer) it can spread to under the chrome clad coating and cause this condition. ***re is nothing our facility could have done to increase the rate at which this corrosion or deterioration can happen.  

      We have already reimbursed the customer for the secondary repairs,  that were not brought to our attention prior to them being done,without being able to verify first-hand that it was necessary.  Also, the condition of the wheels was not brought to our attention until after the alignment and balance was done elsewhere. 

       *** customer is asking for full price NEW wheel reimbursement,  to replace wheels that are 8 years old and have been driven for 125 thousand miles. *** wheels in question are no longer on the vehicle, replacement wheels were already purchased and provided by the customer which is what we installed.  *** corrosion (as to what extent is the debate)  was already present on the wheel prior to our service as our technician stated the wheels were peeling upon the vehicle arrival. 

      Customer response

      11/09/2021

      Attached below is the affidavit from the collision **** manager at Grosses in *********** **. This affidavit is submitted to hopefully clear up any confusion as to the chrome rims condition before my vehicle was serviced at Morries. The General Manager states that my rims were in near perfect condition while the vehicle was in their possession. If you look up my carfax it will state that my vehicle was serviced at gross motors then was serviced at morries right after.The statement that I am asking for reimbursement for a pair if new rims is correct. I am asking for the reimbursement for brand new rims due to the fact that the general manager at gross motors clearly stated that my rims were in basically new condition. Since it is impossible for me to get an estimate on what my rims are worth prior to them being destroyed, my request still stands as stated.
      As for the argument that is being made about wether or not the mount and balance was needed, I would like to bring your attention the picture below, submitted earlier,of the Youngstedts recipt where the general manager there stated that my balance was off 3 total ounces, hence the shaking that I was occuring after my service at Morries to put on my new rims and tires.
      There is no feasable way possible as to state that my rims were not damaged at morries due to the fact that my rims were in basically brand new condition at Gross motors and was not serviced at any other place up until Morries. Due to the concurrent evidence submitted, Morries statement that the rims came in with the damage on the photos submitted below is invalid. Therefore the request for the reimbursement still stands.

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