ComplaintsforFantzy Plantz LLC

• Initial Complaint

  04/12/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

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  Purchased two plants from Fantzy Plantz on WhatNot (a live auction app). After seller dropped off the package with ***** they blocked me on WhatNot. When I got the package I found out why. The box was smashed and stained. **** left a sticker on the box stating that is how they received it from Fantzy Plantz (*************************** and ***********************). The plants were soaked in a liquid (yellow) and the plants are not going to live. Lost out on almost $50 and can not review it on WhatNot (since they blocked me) and cant contact them.

  Business response

  04/22/2024

  I am in a legal case against these people making fake complaints against me.

   

  Hello, my name is ***************************, and I would like to share my story of how I accidentally found out about price shilling on WhatNot, and then other things started to happen that just seemed off. It is very complicated, so I will just start from the top, and tell you how I started selling on WhatNot. 

  
  

  I was on ********* and I saw someone comment about someone selling stuff live in an auction at ********. Someone said, "Oh thats just whatnot, its been around forever." So I downloaded it, and saw if they sold plants on it, and sure enough they did, so I applied to sell. I started selling and had my first live on Feb 7th. I had already been selling on PlantStory for many months, and had no issues, and also selling locally, and on Ebay. 

  
  

  Feb 7th I had my first live. I absolutely was hooked. I had so much fun, I loved the energy, and the selling, and I learned as I went how to sell, what sold, and how to sell small things for $1. Because at one dollar someone will always always grab it. My success was about strategy. I figured out how to work the numbers with cuttings, and small plants. 

  
  

  The first thing I noticed was the people that were in our first few lives just disappeared, and I thought they really liked us. Then one of them that I gave free stuff to, and made her box extra special still gave me a bad review, which I thought was really strange, but still didn't know anything was going on. So then I continued to have lives, and the people that I really liked started getting weirder and wierder with me, and I didn't know why. 

  
  

  I then got to second place in sales by strategy. Then things started getting really weird. I wrote to Rooted Summerville introducing ourselves, which I sent in the app as evidence our conversation. It is me saying hey, were getting up there in sales, I want to be friends.I didn't get an anwser. I had already told my husband that I felt something off with rooted because we were the other sellers that are husband and wife. Whatnot just started their plant and garden section in August or something I dont even know. So there were some sellers on there, and then Auraus garden supply and rooted summerville started in Aug I believe. I started in Feb, and was already in second. I could feel some resistance from them towards me, but I still didn't know why at that point. 

  
  

  Then I'm in Joes lives and I can tell he is reading everyones comments above and below mine and just being really weird. Then I asked him if I could but his dads pot holders that he makes that I genuinely thought were cool. He didn't respond. Which i was really starting to get an off feeling by that point. I wanted to join forces with them and make more money, and just could not understand why they were always so so so strange around me when I was in their lives. 

  
  

  Then I was in Joes live, and I heard him say, "Hey mamak are you sleeping?" Implying bid up my item. Which there is nothing wrong with a little healthy competition. The problem lies in when I was in her live and saw him tip her $50. Then I put 2 and 2 together. If someone accidentally wins an item that they are bidding up for the him, he would go back and either tip them in their live, just cancel the order, or ask people to send a cancel request right there in the live. From that point on, I was on a mission to find out why these people were being so weird, and why they were doing this "try again for more money" stuff. 

  
  

  So after I found out about the shilling I still wasn't going at it with them yet. I just noticed all my close friends all started getting really distant all at once. I have 4 conversations at least and probably more of me innocently asking if my good friends were mad at me. Two of which I had prior relations with in real life before whatnot. They got so distant....and I'm the nicest loving person ever, and I just could not understand why now almost everyone was being distant and strange. 

  
  

  Then I started going into lives and just getting relentlessly attacked left and right and embarrassed. I also provided some....a very small amount of what I have...in the chat with you guys. They harass you endlessly until you just can't take it anymore. Every live I went in I just got made fun of for no reason by people I really liked. I still didn't know anything really bad was going on yet. Just that I saw the shilling and everyone I knew was being soooooooo weird and or mean for no reason and I'm just trying to make friends and sell plants. 

  
  

  So then I asked to be on this thing called a raid train. I asked 3 other sellers, and they all almost in sync and scaredly say go to this lady *****. I ask her to be on the raid train, and she says, no, you can be on some other one for blah blah blah...but there were other people on there that had less in sales than me, so I just still could not understand why these people just don't want anything to do with me when I'm doing so well in 1/5 of the time....well....that was exactly the reason lol and I didn't know it. A raid train is where you end your show and send your customers to the next show in turn bringing more customers. They refused to let me anywhere near them and I still didn't know what was going on.

  
  

  It gets even more intricate, and it would take me days to explain every little thing I saw, but what it boils down to is this. There is a group of I believe 5 to 10 sellers that have hundreds if not thousands of fake profiles with fake names and emails....to leave fake reviews on other sellers to keep them below them. They also engage in illegal activities with each other like shilling and other things like claiming more postage and lost items and other stuff. They all have the same verbiage for bad reviews. 

  
  

  They look for new sellers to have their first lives. They instantly start buying their items in huge numbers. They then use that as what I call amo against other sellers to keep them below them in this very intricate network of fake profiles all leaving ridiculous reviews on new seller's accounts. That is what I was also sending in the app. Fake profiles vs real ones. There is a huge difference on real and fake ones. 

  
  

  So if you look at those bad, horrible, mean, absolutely ridiculous one star reviews on these poor sellers, you will find a trend. The bad reviews all are followed by the same names that keep appearing in follows and followed on the profiles of the people who leave these bad reviews. As you will see in what I've sent these reviews are just so mean and only to hurt, and bring down other sellers to keep them on top. 

  
  

  They then blackmail other sellers to stay below them and recruit other new sellers to make this giant pyramid price scamming ring. It is very intricate. 

  
  

  They start by buying all your items and then using them against you to flag you for either bad reviews, cancellations, lost items, etc when they want to. It is very hard to tell the difference between a real customer, and one of these fake buyers that buy basically for the top 5-10 sellers. If you follow the negative reviews to the follows and followers you will start to see the same names appear. I believe those are the ones in control of the fake profiles that are used to hurt innocent sellers who have no idea how big and intricate this thing is. It gets way more detailed, but that is it in a nutshell. 

  
  

  There are top sellers who stay on top by making tons and tons of fake profiles and buying items with the only intention of using it as a bad review when needed. I believe they scare people with this tactic to get them shut down. 

  
  

  So back to whatnot. It just continued to get worse and worse with the harassing comments and my good friends just being mean for darn right no reason. 

  
  

  Its because I was number 2 in sales without this price-shilling ring thing they have going on, and they hated that. That is the only reason they were so mean to me no matter how hard I tried to be friends. Then I told the rep that I confronted *** about knowing about something weird and illegal going on. I told her it was starting to get out of hand, and to please handle it. Nothing was done. It continued to get worse and worse. and more threatening comments were made and more negative reviews started coming in that I knew were just so off....and not true...then I had a live and just had a panic attack because they were saying things like where are you located in a field somewhere.....passive-aggressively trying to scare me in chats in my live

  
  

  It did scare me, and no one helped me for 3 weeks. and they just got more relentless and I did nothing but get second in sales on accident lol and catch them in this price-shilling thing. 

  
  

  I only learned about the negative review reverse look-up within the last few days, but that is the easiest way to see who is in control of these fake profiles that leave fake reviews on innocent seller's profiles to keep that handful of sellers on top. It's called a pyramid scheme, and it is happening on all live platforms these sellers are on. I didn't even know the terminology of these things till last week lol

  
  

  So the sellers that hated me for being in second also sold here and wanted me off before I had a chance.

  
  

  The people I blocked on here are top sellers I do not know. I only narrowed it down to those sellers because of the negative reviews and who follows who on them. They have thousands of fake generic profiles that leave fake reviews to keep others below them. Its is 5-10 sellers keeping hundreds of others from growing, and it is not fair to anyone. Yes, those sellers make platforms money....but it is wrong and can't be tolerated. They wanted me off here because they know I know their illegal activities and wanted me off before I could let people know they are about to get blackmailed by them.

  
  

  This may be a theory, but all you have to do is look at the random bad reviews to hurt innocent sellers who look generic and who follow them. Those are the ones in control.

  
  

  There is even more, but that is the easiest way to explain it. I did nothing wrong. I do import from a man who donates all his profits to an orphanage and they are saying that is fake and it isn't.

  
  

  
  

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  Here's live action scouting for new sellers and the fake buyer that was tagging my name and didn't even get a package yet. Later I found out **** from A2Z houseplants also acted like my best friend and I thought he was. I absolutely loved him. It was all a set up. Every single person wasn't really my friend because they were all blackmailed into hating me. They couldn't do that to me because I was in the way of the pyramid shilling ring.

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  They want to be your mod because then they are in on your lives and your info and can gather more to blackmail to keep people doing what they want. 

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  And I was also smart enough to put it all together. Most people feel something off but never see all the pieces like I did because I was the target to get out of the way.....they also just block people if they don't do as told and shin them. Most people shut up and don't fight back. I did and they didn't like that 

  
  

  On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 2:26 AM *************************** <*****************> wrote:

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  Fake reviews that I thought was just a mean lady before I found out she was one of their fake ones.

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  This is rooted Summervilles follow and following. This is part of the ring on Plantstory which means they are welcoming the Whatnot ring with open arms. I think. 

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  More negative reviews and same names appearing in the followers from the negative review.

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  There are tons of these generic fake profiles. Thousands. Anyone who follows them are more than likely using them and all connected. I think there may even be more than one ring in this platform. Like democrats and Republicans. Every single seller is effected by this because they are literally waiting for their first live to pull them into their ring and keep them below the top. Every new seller is placed in one of these groups you can tell by who they follow and who follows them. Some are real customers, but most of these generic blank ones are fake ones they all share. 

  
  

  On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 10:46 PM *************************** <*****************> wrote:

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  Teguh the *** of the nursery in ********* I get all my rares from that really do sell for up to $200 per leaf. Here is proof of Teguh. He goes in my lives and cohosts and describes his own rare plants that he grows to feed orphans. It really doesn't get any GOODER than that lol. ***** and I are now being blasted in Reddit from them saying we are fake and destroying our names that really do help the poorest of poor. How they can not feel bad about this is beyond me. 

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  In this very same photo of one of their fake mods who is high up in the whatnot ring *******. She's best friends with *** on Aurora Garden supply, and right below is ***** describing what I was selling from his nursery. I think that is just the coolest thing ever. And people can talk to the man himself, and when I tell you he has every rare plant on Earth I'm not lying ?????? He has to have the best quality plants because the mouths he feeds depend on how amazing his plants are, and he takes it very seriously.

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  So now I have second in sales in 1/5 of the time, while having their daggers thrown at me and fake mods relaying info on me, and fake best friends relaying info on me, and I'm still just flying past them with sales. Why? Because I have an awesome show with the *** in the live co-hosting describing his own plants that I import from him that really do feed orphans. I also have a strategy to sell small plants and cuttings. Quantity. Start at $1 and sell everything I put up there for more than it's worth by having a lot of people in my live. Strategy. They absolutely hated it because they just couldn't slow me down. So they threw all their amo at me they had been gathering, and here I am not able to sell because their tactics work....and scare people into being below them and doing their dirty work. 

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  And more. I bought stuff in all the lives of people that hated me while getting relentlessly bullying 1. To collect this book of evidence and 2. To showcase their stuff on my live and bring them new customers and bookmarks and business which brings money. 

  
  

  They are all about only promoting eacg other. I was going to show the people that hated me what I could do for them through love and NETWORKING. They are dumb being greedy. We all have different knowledge about different things to share with each other. I was going to show the lower people that hated me and didn't know why other than being told to what numbers I could bring them. It was out of pure love even while they literally made fun of me in the lives. I still took it because I had a plan to win them all back with love....but I was too much of a threat to their ring. But now the cat is out of the bag, and I know I am truth and they are lies. So I will sit and let you see for yourself....and hope I can bring this platform together and sell the rarest plants on Earth at $1 forever to feed Teguhs kids. 

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  Once the leaders of negativity aren't allowed to suppress new sellers anymore....then you will see this platform shine like it never has before through the power of networking and love, and release scared sellers from their blackmail hold the tops and all their "workers" do to keep them and only them on top. 

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  I don't know any of the people in the top of the ring here. They don't know to hate me other than the 3 from the top of Whatnot. There will be no drama because the top here doesn't know me at all. I blocked the ones that hate me and just want to sell and stay out of drama. The top here is what I "think" to be true through looking at bad reviews. 

  
  

  They don't have any drama with me at all. It's just the ones from whatnot right now on this platform that don't like me. 

  
  

  On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 10:46 PM *************************** <*****************> wrote:

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  I know what to look for now and will just completely stay out of any drama and just report it to you if I see it and not try to do anything alone. I want to make money and network and that is it. I won't even go in there lives just to stay in my lane and sell with my strategy. 

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  What I have to offer for $1 every show. ????????????????

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  This is what I have to offer for $1 every show. I will show you with numbers who I am. ??

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  And every day I can't sell my giant stock and variety of every kind of plant there is for $1 starts...hurts my business more, and I have no other source of income and 5 children. I didn't do anything but try to sell plants and make friends, and accidentally got second place and accidentally put pieces together. That was it. 

  
  

  On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 10:46 PM *************************** <*****************> wrote:

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  This is a small group compared to how many sellers are effected by them. There are tons of real customers that have no clue about anything and just want to buy plants. If I completely just stay away from the people that I know could potentially hurt me in some way with negative reviews and fake buyers, I block them as they follow me. I follow bad reviews and block all the fake profiles. I already have my guard up to keep away from them and not get into drama. I know exactly who they are as they follow me by looking at who they follow and who follows them. Real customers don't have very many of these same people that they follow. You see what I mean. Each new follow I can weed out from someone trying to buy stuff to leave bad reviews, and a real customer because their patterns are so distinct. There are millions of real users and real customers on here that have nothing to do with this small group of greedy, fraudulent, pyramid scheme, bad people. A handful of 5 or 10 doing this to hundreds of sellers and waiting for new sellers to start selling to start their blackmail amo to keep them lower. It's not hard to see who they are, and this platform and the hundreds of other sellers who can make more money by not being suppressed by blackmail is astronomically higher than what this platform makes with them in control. Half of the sellers don't even know how amazing others are or what they have to offer because if you are shunned from their group they relentlessly hurt you until you leave them alone. That creates this huge divide which you will also see by seeing who follows who. It's that easy. 

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  Here is me telling ***** I know what ?? means. 

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  She actually uses that same ??as code when I send the picture of my all inclusive raid train photo. They have all these code emojis everywhere. 

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  This is how all of this connected as I saw it right here in this evidence I gathered. It is all connected and there is so so much more. Believe it or not. And I can decipher their emojis and passive aggressive phrases instantly now. 

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  The only piece I can't find but I have is where rooted pinned AND tagged ****** name for 5 minutes with this ?? after her name not knowing I was in there. That's when I knew 100% without a doubt my theory will be tested. And will be true. 

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  And that pin of her name by rooted *********** was done in ***'s live Aurora Garden Supply and none of them knew I was there. I was under an alias superdoperpooer. Because I knew they were ?? and gonna get flushed for doing illegal things. Everything I did was calculated because I knew what they were doing, and I was collecting evidence to prove it because it's so complex that no one would believe me without undeniable patterns which makes literal numbers

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