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Initial Complaint
05/17/2024
- Complaint Type:
- Service or Repair Issues
- Status:
- Answered
Subject: Formal Complaint Regarding Unsafe Vehicle Sold by Toyota Peoria Dealership I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to file a formal complaint against Toyota Peoria Dealership regarding the purchase of a Subaru vehicle that I believe to be unsafe and misrepresented. My dream car since I was 15 has been a Subaru WRX STI. I finally was able to purchase the car I fell in love with from a dealership this year and am completely devastated by my experience. On March 1st, I purchased a 2019 Subaru STI from Toyota Peoria Dealership. During the sales process, I was assured that the vehicle had undergone a full inspection and was in good working condition. Relying on this representation, I proceeded with the purchase. However, shortly after taking possession of the vehicle, I began experiencing numerous issues that indicate significant safety concerns. These include bushings that were so destroyed it resulted in destroyed lower control arms. These issues not only compromise the functionality of the vehicle but also pose a risk to my safety and the safety of others on the road. When I contacted the dealership in regards to these issues, the dealership recognized that they were responsible for the cost of replacement of these parts considering the pretenses that the car was in great working condition. This past weekend, I was driving the car and the entire engine stopped working while I was on the highway. I was left in a dangerous situation as I was in the way of full highway traffic. I had to get the car towed to a local dealership to see what was wrong. Upon further inspection by an independent mechanic, it was revealed that the purported "full inspection" was either not conducted thoroughly or was negligently performed. The issues identified were not only present at the time of purchase but also should have been readily apparent to any competent inspector. In less then 1500 miles of my ownership of the vehicle, the engine failed due to an undisclosed oil consumption issue leaving the car with 0 oil in the engine.. I was provided a quote to get the car back in working order and the invoice was about $17,000. I have attempted to resolve this matter directly with Toyota Peoria Dealership but have been met with resistance and denial of responsibility. Given the seriousness of the safety concerns and the apparent deception involved in the sale, I am left with no choice but to seek assistance from your office. I kindly request that your office investigate this matter and take appropriate action to ensure that Toyota Peoria Dealership is held accountable for their actions. I am also seeking restitution for the purchase price of the vehicle and any expenses incurred because of its defects. I would also be happy if the dealership would just cover the costs of repairs for the vehicle. Please let me know if you require any further information or documentation to proceed with this complaint. I appreciate your attention to this matter and look forward to a prompt resolution. Thank you for your time and assistance. Sincerely, *** ****** ** ************Customer response
05/20/2024
Here is video of the cars lower control arms after just recieving the vehicle and heading home, the dealership was 2 hours away and although I noticed a very significant steering wheel wobble I figured it just needed to be aligned. I was more than lucky this didnt fail on me on the way home causing injury to not just me and my aunt but to others on the road. Only driving it to work once I noticed the vibrations I felt only got worse and immediately wanted to put my mind at ease by taking it to the nearest ***** **** . There they told me they have never seen any damage like this before and that I was lucky that the cars wheel hadn't broke off causing catastrophic damage but also any injury to myself or my aunt while driving home. Attached as well is the reciept from ***** **** who looked at the reason for the wobble and replaced said parts necessary to be driven safely that *****, the general manager at the time with Toyota of Peoria paid for in order to reconcile the situation. This damage was not light and clear that if this was able to pass Toyota of Peoria's inspection, there was clear negligence in their process as this was not deemed safe to drive on by any means.Business response
06/21/2024
The customer had every opportunity to inspect the vehicle before purchase, and if he so chose, to take it elsewhere for an inspection. At the time of sale the engine did not show any sings of having issues. There were no check engine lights on which would indicate a serious matter or codes warning of imminent problems. When the dealership, as a gesture of goodwill, did the other work mentioned in the complaint, there were no signs of engine issues, nor did the customer mention any. The law in Illinois is 15 days and 500 mile warranty for drivetrain on used cars, and then it essentially becomes "as-is". This was beyond that period of time, and the customer chose not to purchase an extended warranty.Customer response
06/25/2024
I am rejecting this response because:
Thank you for forwarding the dealership's response. I appreciate the opportunity to clarify my situation further.
Inspection Before Purchase:
While I understand that I had the opportunity to inspect the vehicle, I relied on the dealership's inspection report and representations regarding the car's condition. The significant issues that arose, including the catastrophic engine failure, were not detectable during a standard pre-purchase inspection. The oil starvation issue caused by excessive oil consumption from failing turbo seals is an internal issue that would not necessarily present visible signs or warning codes immediately.
Goodwill Repairs:
I appreciate the dealership's gesture of goodwill in addressing the ball joints and lower control arms. However, this issue itself indicates that the initial inspection was not thorough enough, as these critical components should have been identified and addressed before the sale. The severity of the problems discovered shortly after purchase suggests that these issues were present and developing at the time of sale.
Extended Warranty:
I chose not to purchase the extended warranty based on the dealership's assurance of the vehicle's reliability. I was led to believe that the car was in good condition and did not foresee the need for additional coverage. The issues that arose were significant and unexpected, far beyond the scope of minor wear and tear that an extended warranty typically covers.
Timeline and Mileage:
The dealership correctly states that the law in Illinois provides a 15-day and 500-mile warranty for the drivetrain on used cars, beyond which the vehicle is sold "as-is." However, the catastrophic failure of the engine occurred shortly after this period, and the severity of the issues indicates pre-existing conditions that should have been addressed or disclosed at the time of sale.
Documentation:
I have documentation from ***** **** and other mechanics confirming the severity of the issues discovered shortly after purchase. These include the oil starvation issue due to excessive oil consumption from failing turbo seals, which directly led to the engine failure, as well as the previously addressed ball joints and control arms. This evidence supports my claim that the vehicle had significant underlying problems not disclosed at the time of sale.
In conclusion, I believe the dealership should take greater responsibility for the undisclosed issues with the vehicle that became apparent shortly after purchase. I am seeking a fair resolution to cover the costs of necessary repairs to make the vehicle operational again.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I hope we can reach an amicable resolution that addresses the significant challenges I have faced due to this situation.Business response
07/08/2024
Our response stands.Customer response
07/08/2024
I am rejecting this response because:
I am deeply concerned about Toyota of Peoria's lack of responsibility regarding the significant mechanical issues that arose shortly after purchasing my 2019 Subaru STI. Here are the key points I would like to remphasize:
Undisclosed Issues:
The vehicle exhibited severe mechanical issues due to oil starvation from failing turbo seals, leading to catastrophic engine damage. These problems were not disclosed at the time of sale and manifested shortly after purchase. Such issues are internal and would not have been detectable during a standard pre-purchase inspection.
Questionable Inspection Quality:
While the dealership addressed the ball joints and lower control arms as a gesture of goodwill, the fact that these critical issues were missed during the initial inspection raises serious concerns about the thoroughness and accuracy of their inspection process. The severity of these problems suggests they were present and developing at the time of sale.
Reliance on Dealership's Assurance:
I chose not to purchase an extended warranty based on the dealership's assurances of the vehicle’s reliability. The unexpected and significant nature of these issues goes far beyond normal wear and tear, indicating pre-existing conditions that should have been identified and disclosed by the dealership.
Legal Protections and Responsibilities:
While the dealership mentions the 15-day and 500-mile warranty for the drivetrain on used cars in Illinois, the severity of the issues and their early manifestation strongly suggest pre-existing conditions. Toyota of Peoria has a legal and ethical responsibility to disclose such critical issues, and their failure to do so constitutes a breach of consumer trust and potentially deceptive business practices.
Given these points, I am requesting that Toyota of Peoria take responsibility for the undisclosed issues that have caused substantial financial and personal distress. I have already taken steps to file a complaint with the Illinois ******** ********* ****** and am exploring further legal action. However, I hope to resolve this matter amicably through the BBB process.
I urge Toyota of Peoria to reconsider their stance and work towards a fair resolution. Addressing the repair costs associated with the undisclosed issues would demonstrate a commitment to customer satisfaction and ethical business practices.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your assistance in facilitating a resolution.
Sincerely,
*** ******Initial Complaint
07/21/2022
- Complaint Type:
- Product Issues
- Status:
- Answered
July 7th 2020 I purchased a pre-owned 2020 Toyota Camry ($28,900 - total loan $30,531). There were some issues I had with the vehicle before driving it off the lot. For one there was an issue with the thermostat reading in Celsius and not Fahrenheit, second there were some chips in the windshield. I was reassured by the sales team I could come without an appointment to be resolved. I was denied services 7/11/22 for not having an appointment, and told to make an appointment 7/20/22 when their windshield specialist was in and they would address all problems then. 7/20/22 I came to pick up my car and was asked by the service team if I required maintenance for an accident, I informed them I just bought the car and there should be no such thing. The service team took me out to look at my car and informed me of frontal damage that resulted in the hood not closing properly and abnormal gaps that was "likely" the result of base damage to the vehicle. I was referred back to the sales team. I spoke with the sales manager at *******. I never received or signed any agreement that my car was in an accident, and "likely" totaled. My loan is not a salvage loan. I was informed by car is regionally locked in Canada and that issues I was originally assured would be fixed were "too expensive" for the sales team to fix for me and I would have to "live with it". They allowed me to return the vehicle, but told me "they don't do" rental vehicles and I would have to pay out of pocket for the next month and a half until they could have a new Camry brought in for me. I never received confirmation of my return of the car, no letter of hold for a new car, they "forgot" to give me my registration on my old car, there were issues with purchase that I was supposed to be refunded for and never did. They attempted to force me to take back my old trade in (that has an engine leak) to even leave the dealership so I could come back home. My old loan they agreed to pay off is still an open account.Business response
08/12/2022
We worked with this consumer, and this complaint has already been resolved. We rescinded the contract for the 2020 Toyota Camry she purchased from us on 7/7/20 and she has a new Toyota Camry on order with us here at the dealership.Initial Complaint
03/07/2022
- Complaint Type:
- Service or Repair Issues
- Status:
- Answered
I don't know were to start with all the information to provide. On April of 2016 I purchased a vehicle with Toyota, a BMW X3 to be exact. During the purchase I had asked about a loud noise that the vehicle made every time it was turned on I was explained it was a normal sound that it made. However a month later after purchased I still continue to hear the loud rattling noise so since I had purchased a warranty for it decided to right away bring it in to get it checked out. Because the vehicle was a BMW it would had to be brought to a BMW dealership but was explained that due to the warranty purchased that I would have to bring it to Toyota and they would get my info and pass along concerns to bmw. I definitely felt like there was some miscommunication between both parties and all the back and forth with myself. Every time I would visit Toyota regarding this issue and still under the mileage and warranty required it was the same processes and same explanation given to them of why I was bringing my vehicle in. I was always bringing it for service to the point where it began to feel like I was being descrimanated by age and gender. I every single time was given some sort of bad customer service and was not taken serious with my problem. Before hitting my 70,000 miles I decided to bring in the vehicle one last time to get it checked out and once again I was given no response. Turns out that later during that time my vehicle was checked out by my another mechanic and diagnosed it with a time chain malfunction. Brought it back to get it serviced with BMW and diagnosed it as in fact my time chain and looked at my service history and explained that Toyota never informed them about the issue I always expressed. There for it was a misdiagnosed from day one and that it had always been my time chain. A year later my vehicle stopped working an needed to get the time chain replaced. I contacted both parties and both blame each other for it. There is paper work from day one.Business response
03/18/2022
To Whom it May Concern
We received customer complaint ******** from ******* ********. We are familiar with this issue as the vehicle, as this 2013 Used BMW X3 was purchased in April of 2016 and we worked with the customer then. Unfortunately the vehicle has right around 50,000 miles and the issues the vehicle was having were outside of our abilities. However with the extended warranty the customer purchased we recommended and were able to send the vehicle to *** ***** BMW down the street. Due to their misdiagnosis, to which they later admitted, the vehicle was not repaired under the customer's Vehicle Service Contract. We reached out to BMW ourselves to see if we could help and they decided not to. Unfortunately used vehicles are machines and can break down unexpectedly. We too are frustrated that BMW was not willing to take care of this issue as they originally had the car in their shop while the customer's Service Contract was still active.
Best regards
**** ******** ******* *******
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Customer Complaints Summary
3 total complaints in the last 3 years.
1 complaints closed in the last 12 months.