ComplaintsforBud's Gun Shop.com

• Initial Complaint

  06/17/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Resolved

  More info

  I ordered a pistol brace from buds gun shop back in may of this year it was defective and I did install it on the gun the only way to see if it works I emailed with a **** a supervisor there I had some choice words with him he said I was over the 10 day return policy I was being honest and told him I installed it on the gun he said they won’t except it I did send it back but I have emailed and tried to call them within the last 3 weeks and got no return I have proof in an email saying they will send it back to me defective or not and pay for the return it cost almost $200.00 I already paid for this I want it sent back to me defective or not iam not asking for a replacement or my money back I want what I already paid for sent back like they said they would do if I can’t get any where here iam going to contact the police there I have spent thousands of dollars there this is just not right the order number is ******* another order number on the invoice is **********

  

  Business response

  06/18/2024

  After reviewing this order we did receive this item back on 5/17 and we did reach out to the customer to confirm the information in order to reship the item back out as it would not be eligible for return.  As per our accessory returns we are unable to bring back a defective item if it has passed 10 calendar days from receipt or if the item has been used/installed.  Once an item has been installed or used if a defect is found it would be covered by through any warranty offered by the manufacturer.  We have confirmed that this item will be sent back to the customer by our returns department to the address we have on file for the customer, and the address provided with this complaint.  We wanted to confirm that the customer accepted the return and make sure that address was correct before we sent the item back but we had not received a reply to the emails that were sent to the customer for this information which is why the item had not yet been returned.

  Customer response

  06/23/2024

  
  Better Business Bureau:
  
  I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  **** ****

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• Initial Complaint

  06/17/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I purchased a Colt Python from Buds along with the lifetime extended warranty. I sent the gun in April 2024 for repair work. The cylinder is able to rotate without the trigger being discharged. I received the weapon back yesterday and the problem is still there. It has not been repaired. I contacted Buds to issue me either a refund or replacement. They refused both asking rather that the firearm be returned for repair again. I was told it can't be refunded or replaced unless it's deemed unrepairable. I explained that once a weapon has been returned it's naturally assumed that it's repaired. So they had their chance to fix it and didn't. The gun needs to be replaced. The gun with warranty is approximately $1400. I spoke with one supervisor named **** to no satisfaction. I spoke to his supervisor James and still no satisfaction. I asked for his supervisor and he tells me his name is ****** and proceeds to give me an email address for him of ********************. I look at the email I received from **** and the email doesn't involve numbers. And I call Buds Guns back and dial extension **** and guess what it's ******* voicemail. Not someone named ******. Whom he tells me is unavailable. So now I'm stuck with a $1400 pistol that is nothing more than a paper weight because they choose to not stand behind their own warranty of replacement or refund.

  

  Business response

  06/17/2024

  We are sorry to hear the customer is still experiencing issues with their firearm.  This firearm was returned back to us for repair and it was sent to Colt to have the repair done under the current warranty of the firearm, as our extended warranty would go into effect once the original manufacturer's warranty has expired.  We did get conformation from Colt that the firearm was received and repaired, and after the repair was completed it went though several function tests and which it passed and was then returned back to the customer.  As the customer stated they were still having issues with the firearm Colt did advise that they were more than happy to bring the firearm back again to see what is causing the issue and ensure it is fully functional.  Unfortunately, the customer was not happy with this option and seemed only willing to send it back if it was stated to be for refund or replacement.  We did advise even under our warranty a refund would be issued if the issue is deemed unable to be repaired and that the firearm would have to be sent back for inspection prior.  We did not deny the any refund but did state that we would not bring the firearm back specifically for a refund as the inspection would have to occur first as a repair is always the first step in the warranty.

  Customer response

  06/17/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because: The warranty is only from one year from the original date of purchase per Colt website. It was purchased January 5, 2023. And was sent back April 2024. So this was after the manufacturer warranty. Also I have not received anything where Colt actually had and worked on the firearm. Plus per their communication in messages, they said they was in possession of the weapon and waiting on "things" from the manufacturer. This obviously doesn't mean that Colt was waiting on things from Colt. But rather Bud's was waiting on things from Colt as they said , "they are in possession" They have had the opportunity to fix the weapon. It's a rather expensive weapon that is supposed to be the best. They should refund or replace the weapon because how many times am I supposed to give them to fix it before they actually refund or replace it? If their customer service is as good as they claimed they would be willing to do this. I'm not being unreasonable here, I have given the opportunity for it to be fixed and it wasn't. So therefore the next step should be to refund or replace, not have to keep sending the gun back and forth.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  **** ******

  

  Business response

  06/17/2024

  We did provide the customer regarding the repairs that Colt made and that Colt did confirm the firearm was functioning properly upon the initial repair.  If the customer wants any documentation beyond what Colt said we did provide the customer the contact information for Colt so that they can request any sort of documentation that they have.  We did advise the customer that the firearm was returned back for us and was currently being repaired, the firearm was being serviced by the manufacturer as they do not have a written warranty but that they do provide free service for one year from the date of the purchase.  We brought the firearm back under our warranty and sent the firearm to Colt for the repairs.  As we noted the terms of our warranty is that if a firearm is deemed unable to be repaired we would then provide a replacement, if available, or a refund.  In this case the firearm was considered to be functioning properly, but the customer says that the issue is still present.  We have advised the customer that we can bring the firearm back, and Colt themselves were very interested in getting the item back as they wanted to ensure the firearm was fully function, and should the issue not be able to be resolved we could go from there to provide further options.  We would not be able to promise a refund without bringing the firearm back for repair first.  This is listed in our warranty section as it says: "If the firearm cannot be repaired, and no direct replacement is available, we will offer current retail value as a credit (amount to be determined by ***************) towards the purchase of any item(s) from *******************."

  Customer response

  06/18/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

  As I already stated and said multiple times, the firearm was past the Colt factory warranty per Colt website. The gun was purchased 1/2023. I sent it for repairs 04/2024. This is past the one year warranty. Yes I called Colt and verified they had it. I also verified that Buds gave them inaccurate information as to what the issue was. The problem here is that I followed Bud's warranty to the letter and when I received my gun back it was not fixed. It is NOT my responsibility to make sure it's fixed before it being returned to me. That falls on Bud's. When you return a firearm that has been repaired under warranty it should be working properly. It is NOT my responsibility to continue sending this back to Bud's so they can have multiple chances at fixing the same problem. I could completely understand their point of view had I had the gun for weeks or months later and then reported the problem was back or hadn't been fixed. But I did not do that. I reported it immediately. If Bud's is so confident that this can be repaired, then they should refund my money and take my gun, send it to Colt, fix it and sell it themselves. The fact I have had to go to these lengths to get Bud's to do the right thing is absolutely ridiculous!
  
  Sincerely,
  
  **** ******

• Initial Complaint

  06/17/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Billing Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  The checkout screen when using mobil phones does not request city and state information clearly, and the address auto populate enters only the partial address leading me to believe the city state was not needed, which is required to process payment. Due to this issue your bank will hold your payment for 5 days. I am uncomfortable with buds handling of my credit card, they showed no respect for cash flow. They wanted $96 to cancel this order. The checkout screens gave warnings for this sort of banking error leading me to believe again that this is a known issue at buds. Why do the customers pay for your mistake with thier time?

  

  Business response

  06/17/2024

  We are very sorry to hear that there was any confusion during our checkout process.  The screen shot the customer provided was from the payment information page which is the third and final page of our checkout process.  At this point the billing address would already have been entered and selected.  This is asking to confirm the information before the payment can be processed and it does not require any more information than listed.  On the second page of our checkout process it asks the customer to confirm their billing address at the top of the page and select what payment method they wished to use.  This page will allow you to edit the billing address before checking out by either selecting another address from the address book or adding a new address.  Clicking the new address on the mobile site will show the attached image which does require the full address to be entered.  As for the cancellation, the customer has placed a 90 day layaway order prior to this payment issue on a second order which has also been completed and shipped at this time.  The customer requested to cancel the order but since it has been placed and secured for our layaway the 20% deposit would not be able to be refunded should the order be cancelled.  However, as a courtesy we did offer to lower that to a 10% fee rather than the normal 20%.  We are happy to process the cancellation request if the customer wishes or continue with the order.

  Customer response

  06/17/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

  Vendor does not dispute claims, they offered to reduce the restocking fee from 20% to 10%, which equates to $96.00, again, as mentioned before the auto population of the adress does not include the full address resulting in my bank declining the purchase and holding my money. In my opinion leaving a customer without funds or products for an extended period is not resolved with a $96 restocking fee. The firearm in question has risen in price since the purchase. Buds gunshop would stand to profit off of my cancilation. For the record i am not canceling my order but this will be my last order.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ******* ******

  

  Business response

  06/18/2024

  We again apologize if there is any confusion.  The screen shot provided by the customer shows the final part of the checkout process which can only be reached after inputting the full billing address on the previous page, or when putting in the order in the case of a layaway order.  The full billing address is present for the charge and is not what resulted in the failed payments.  For all failed payments the error code stated they were rejected for having an incorrect Zip code, not for any missing information as all the information was present.  The fee for this order would be a cancellation fee, not a restocking fee, and is in place to cover our costs for processing the firearm and holding it for the current duration of the layaway and we did offer to reduce that fee as a one time courtesy.  The layaway will remain open and we will make sure it is processed and shipped out once it is paid in full.

  Customer response

  06/19/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

  If Bud's inventory process results in a 20% increase to the cost of goods sold, then they do not deserve an A+ rating from BBB. However, marking inventory as sold and moving it to a new bay does not cost 20% of that items value. You made that value up and enforce it through the terms of purchase. Again said company with a poor check out process and enforcment of fee's to cancel an order, does not deserve an A+
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ******* ******

• Initial Complaint

  06/10/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  On 5/3 I spoke with a customer service representative through chat to confirm an item included all items listed in their website description. 3 magazines, optic mount, cleaning kit, and premium hard case. This was verified by their agent. On 5/15 it arrived at my FFL and they verified it arrived as just a firearm and 1 magazine. Buds was unwilling tonprovide the remaining items, and offered a full refund which I accepted. The firearm was never transferred to me, a shipping label was sent to my dealer and it was returned to Buds. It arrived back to them on 5/20. After repeated inquiries for when I would receive my refund, they would not provide a timeline for when they would finish reviewing before issuing the refund. Now they refuse to issue the refund as I have had to raise the issue with my bank.

  

  Business response

  06/10/2024

  We apologize for any inconvenience.  When a firearm is returned our returns department must inspect the firearm and log it back in through our gun books before the order can be sent to our financing department for a refund to be issued.  Normally, this process can take about 1-2 business days.  However, in this case due to a system update some of our returns could take a bit longer to process than normal.  In this case, the firearm was returned to us on Monday, 5/20.  The customer contacted us to confirm it was returned on 5/21, and again on 5/23.  We advised the customer both times that the firearm was returned and was being processed by our returns department and once that was completed it would be sent to our financing department for the full refund to be issued.  Unfortunately, due to the issue we could not provide a specific date on when it would be completed but advised that it would be completed as quickly as possible.  Due to this the customer advised us that they would be starting a payment dispute with their bank.  We did advise the customer that if that were to happen we would not be able to issue a refund once the return is completed and the customer stated they would continue with that process.  With that being the case the customer would need to continue working with their financing provider as their refund would go through them following the payment dispute.

  Customer response

  06/11/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:
  

  If the merchant will provide the refund, I will have no need to pursue them through banking means.  The delay on their part was never communicated to me, only after 4 days of the return being in their posession and no time frame available for the return did I suggest using banking means to recover my money.  Surely after over 3 weeks of the return being in their posession, they have had ample time to evaluate it, which they did not do before sending to me, and confirm that I am owed a full refund, as was promised by their customer support employee when beginning the refund process.  Pay me back my money in full, and my issue goes away.

  
  Sincerely,
  
  ***** *****

  

  Business response

  06/11/2024

  Due to the nature of a payment dispute once one has been initiated we are unable to then issue a refund as that would not cancel out the payment dispute if the financial institution is currently processing it.  As the customer noted they have notified their bank in regards to this order.  The return of the firearm has been processed but due to the dispute we are unable to issue the refund back to the original payment method at this time.  This was communicated to the customer on 5/23 when they first made mention of disputing the charge, and the customer did mention their intent to continue with the dispute.  Since the customer has reached out to their bank in reference to the charge they would want to continue working with the bank for the refund to be processed.

  Customer response

  06/11/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:
  Receiving return merchandise, and being unwilling to provide a timetable for when a return will be processed, such that it backs the customer into seeking alternative means to resolve the issue, then refusing to do the refund because they have sought relief is an unethical and immoral way to do business.  If the merchant refunded the charge, there would be nothing to dispute.  Buds Gun Shop has failed to deliver the goods as advertised, and upon receipt of the merchandise back, has failed to return my money.  They have acknowledged the return and fully processed it.  Why am I, the customer the only one that has not been made whole, and continue to have to chase my money as punishment for taking the merchant at their word and the crime of trying to do business with them?
  Sincerely,
  
  ***** *****

• Initial Complaint

  06/05/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I purchased a used 870 shotgun on 5/28 that said it was a police trade in. There was not much information on the posting and the image of the shotgun was blurry. I did a little research and read how great police trades were. When they are manufactured, they go through more tests and are made with tougher parts. It was basically the same cost of a new 870 but I loved the idea of it being made for the police department and having gone through testing / extra requirements. However, once I received my gun I reached out to ********* and found that this gun was not manufactured for the police. Buds advised that it was a civilian model that was purchased by a police department. They mislead me by selling a used shotgun at the price of a new one. They apologized and offered to send me a refund, but I would be out $25 for shipping, $25 for the transfer fee, and another $25 for a transfer fee for another shotgun. Obviously, their solution does not make me feel whole and I feel like it is bad business practices. They leveraged the fact it was used for the police and not made for the police because they can get more for it. At the end of the day, I paid more(including insurance) for a used civilian shotgun than I could have purchased a brand new one from their website. Buds solution - we will give you a refund, but we are charging you(the customer) $75 for the inconvenience. I just wanted to escalate this situation so hopefully does not happen to someone else.

  

  Business response

  06/10/2024

  We are very sorry to hear that the customer was unhappy with their firearm purchase.  We did advertise this firearm as a used firearm as it was a police trade in firearm.  It was not advertised as a special model number and did have a matching model number of the standard civilian model number with a U in front designating it as a used firearm, as well as the condition specifying used.  This firearm is actually listed at a lower price than the new model as the new model of the firearm is $20 higher and does not have the magazine tube extension that is available on these police trade in firearms.  We did offer the customer the option to return the firearm after it was transferred as per our return policy for used firearms we are willing to take a return for up to 10 days from the date of transfer.  However, we did request the customer pay the $25 shipping cost out of the refund as that is the cost of the label that we would provide to the customer for the return.  We have offered to waive the 10% restocking fee as a courtesy.  These fees are only in place to cover our costs for processing, shipping and returning the firearm.  As for the transfer fees the customer mentioned those are not paid to us at all, so we are not charging the customer anything more than the $25 return shipping costs for the return of the firearm.  This also means that we cannot reimburse for transfer fees since they are not paid to us.  We are still happy to process the return as long as it is within the 10 day window from the transfer date if the customer is not happy with their purchase.

  Customer response

  06/10/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

  My complaint is not about buying a used fire arm. It is simply that you advertised it as a police trade in and you were intentionally vague in the posting. As you mentioned, it did not have the tube extension like manufactured police shotguns but it was advertised as a plus two extension tube. You know that shotguns that are manufactured for the police are made different and you were deceptive about this being one of them. Also with it being used I did pay $25 for the insurance so it was the same price as brand new civilian model that would have been under the manufacture warranty. Not worth trouble and paying more money to send it back. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  **** ********

  

  Business response

  06/11/2024

  We are very sorry again for any misunderstanding.  Most police firearms are not made with any different parts than other models.  We sell many firearms through our Qualified Professionals program and there are no differences between the models, they are just marked down for individuals that qualify.  This firearm was again advertised with the same model number as the civilian model as it is the same in almost every way, except that it has a higher capacity, with the police trade in having an 8 round capacity compared to the 6 round capacity of the standard version.  As for our supplemental lifetime warranty, that is an optional purchase that is available for all items, so it could be added to the new model as well and would go into effect once the original manufacture's warranty has expired or is no longer available.  

  Customer response

  06/12/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

  Attached are the differences in civilian vs police models per the manufacturer. I would not be making a fuss about it if there was no difference but there is. Thank you for the apology but I don’t think it is fair I cannot get a 100% of my money back because it was not advertised correctly(including shipping and transfer fee). Please make sure clarify in the advertisement next time.

  
  Sincerely,
  
  **** ********

  Customer response

  06/12/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because: Attached are the differences in civilian vs police models per the manufacturer. I would not be making a fuss about it if there was no difference but there is. Thank you for the apology but I don’t think it is fair I cannot get a 100% of my money back because it was not advertised correctly(including shipping and transfer fee). Please make sure clarify in the advertisement next time.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  **** ********

  

  Business response

  06/12/2024

  We apologize if there was any confusion.  We did not state that there are not LE models of firearms, but that many firearms that are manufactured for LE are the same as the civilian variations.  Our listing did not mention that it had any of the features that the customer mentioned in the attached documentation from *********, and as stated previously, it was listed under the model number for the civilian version of the firearm.  We are very sorry that the customer is not happy with the firearm, but with the customer opting to take possession of the firearm and paying the transfer fee to the FFL we are unable to cover those fees as we do not receive that money to reimburse it to the customer.  We always ask customers to inspect firearms at the FFL thoroughly to ensure there are no issues, and if they are unhappy to leave the firearm with the FFL and not take transfer of the firearm.  Since the information for this listing was correct as to what the customer received and we also advised the customer that we would be happy to take a return of the firearm since it was a used firearm and would have been eligible for return for up to 10 days from the date of the transfer.  Normally, under those circumstances a return for a non-defective firearm would involve paying return shipping costs and a 10% restocking fee.  In this case, as a courtesy we did reduce that to only paying the return shipping cost which is the $25 that we pay to provide the return label for the firearm.  The customer would not actually be required to pay that as we would have deducted it from the refunded total.

  Customer response

  06/17/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

  Again, you advertised this as an LE weapon and per the manufacture it is not.  Also, the manufacturer advised there are differences between the civilian and LE shotguns.  You did provide the model number but failed to provide much information at all or even the serial number so it could actually be verified what you were selling. I was not able to verify until after it was transferred. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  **** ********

• Initial Complaint

  05/06/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I purchased a handgun at the website ******************** The gun I received was not the gun depicted on the web site. The item number of the gun is#163193. Item number #1***** is still up on the site after I emailed my problem to buds. My order #******* was placed on 4/17/2024 and my FFL dealer received it on 4/19/2024. Since then I have sent them my concerns,documentation and all the photos that were requested. I cannot contact buds via phone that is not their policy. I sent an email two weeks ago with no response. I have already completed the FFL transfer putting the firearm in my name. I did a review of the gun on buds web site letting others know what I experienced last week, it did not post. I'm left to think buds feels I might just go away. Should I give this more time? I feel it's been long enough considering we're dealing with a firearm.

  

  Business response

  05/06/2024

  We are very sorry to hear that the customer was unhappy with their order.  Our listing was for a Gen 1 model of the firearm, however, the stock photo we had for this item did show a Gen 2 model.  We understand the confusion and we reached out to the customer to explain the issue and we offered the option to return the firearm for a full refund for the inconvenience.  The customer informed us that since the price that was listed was for the Gen 1 model he would prefer to keep the firearm rather than return it for a full refund.  We also did provide our contact information which is listed on our website to allow customers to reach out to us in reference to their order if they are having issues.  We do also reply to emails quickly, however, in this case the representative that provided their email was out on vacation so we were unable to confirm the photos were received.  We apologize as well for that inconvenience.

  Customer response

  05/06/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:I was not able to contact budsgunshop. If I was able to do that this would have already been resolved. The firstemail I sent them I requested a call back at my phone number listed on the email. Buds guns only contacted me promptly after the complaint was summited. After speaking with buds today I was left to feel I didn't do the right thing. SHAME ON THEM,THEY JUST LOST A CUSTOMER!!!!!!
  
  Sincerely,
  
  *** *****

• Initial Complaint

  04/15/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Billing Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  They are crooks. My son put a gun on layaway, he is a minor... Asked me if he could pay me 450 to use my card to order my Christmas present. I said yes. He lost his job and was too embarrassed to tell me he couldn't complete the transaction. When doing my taxes I saw the charge and called my son. he was embarrassed and explained the situation. I contacted Buds Gunshop and asked if there was anything they could do. Could I complete the transaction or be given a store credit toward a purchase should the item no longer be available. They were completely unwilling to do anything, not even a single dollar off on a purchase. Horrible People, horrible policy. Oh, but they keep spamming me. Wake up Buds! Zero Customer relationship!

  

  Business response

  04/15/2024

  We are very sorry to hear the customer was not happy with our service.  This order was placed on 8/15 under our 90 day layaway program.  The terms of this program is that it requires a 20% deposit to secure the item for 90 days from the date of purchase and that if the order is not paid by the 90th day it will be automatically cancelled without refund.  This order reached the 90th day on 11/17 and an email was sent out that the order was pending cancellation.  This email did state, "This order will be cancelled if payment is not received within 3 business days and all previous payment(s) made to this point will be forfeited."  If we received a cancellation request we would have been able to process that request and we could have issued a partial refund minus the deposit which would be 20% the cost of the item being purchased.  However, as we we did not receive payment or a cancellation request this order was cancelled as of 11/22.  Unfortunately, with the order being cancelled so long ago we were unable to reinstate the order, or provide a credit as the fees would cover our costs for holding the item and the order for the customer for the full 3 months of the layaway.

• Initial Complaint

  04/11/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  On April 2nd I ordered (2) of product *****. Bud's gun Shop created a ***** shipping label (TRACKING # ************) on 4-2 @ 10:16 AM from Paris KY, but the order never shipped. I've made 5 phone calls and initiated three online chat sessions with their reps, and they can only say they'll reach out to their shipping department and get back to me with a verified status. That has never occurred.

  

  Business response

  04/11/2024

  We are very sorry for the inconvenience.  We did receive a chat from the customer yesterday informing us of the issue.  Our first step was to contact the warehouse to ensure the status of the shipment and we informed the customer we would follow up once we have further information.  We did receive conformation that the order was processed and shipped as normal on 4/2.  This conformation was just received back as of today 4/11.  With that conformation an investigation has been initiated to begin the shipping claim process.  This is the normal process for any order that has been lost in transit and we will make sure that once we have a resolution to the investigation and claim we will be able to assist.

  Customer response

  04/12/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:
  

  I called this business five times, and chatted with three separate people.  They all said they had to follow up with their shipping department and would update me with status.  This NEVER happened.  As of this writing ***** still shows only a shipping label created, but the package was never picked up.

   

  I feel I'm continuing to get the run around from this business and they have no intention of actually sending me the order.

  
  Sincerely,
  
  ****** ****

  

  Business response

  04/18/2024

  We understand the frustration and we are very sorry that the items have not been received.  We were notified of the issue on 4/10 and first checked with the warehouse.  The customer then contacted us back on 4/11 before we had a response and we advised the customer we were still awaiting information from the warehouse.  We did get a response later that day that everything was confirmed shipped and a shipping investigation was started.  We then provided this update in response to the original complaint as it came in shortly after we received the response.  The customer then contacted us again on 4/17 for an update and our representative checked in with our claims department and they confirmed that we did get conformation of the order being in transit and that the claim was not able to be completed for this order at this time.  We then advised the customer to please give the order some more time to see if the items are delivered based on the response we received to the investigation.  We also provided the customer with the date that we would be able to re-issue the claim if the delivery is not completed.

  Customer response

  04/22/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

   

  ***** shows it never received the item, and they requested either a Case number or a driver name so they could follow up.  In my subsequent chat with Buds online they could not provide the information ***** requested.

   

  To recap the issue:  Bud's says they shipped the two items.  ***** shows no movement on either the shipment or any followup, other than a packing slip created.  Buds cannot provide a ***** case number or a ***** driver name.  In fact, Buds can provide NO information that they actually followed up with ***** on this order, and ***** remains adamant that Bud's has not reached out to them.

   

  Somebody's lying....
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ****** ****

  Customer response

  04/23/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because: 

  ***** shows it never received the item, and they requested either a Case number or a driver name so they could follow up.  In my subsequent chat with Buds online they could not provide the information ***** requested.

   

  To recap the issue:  Bud's says they shipped the two items.  ***** shows no movement on either the shipment or any followup, other than a packing slip created.  Buds cannot provide a ***** case number or a ***** driver name.  In fact, Buds can provide NO information that they actually followed up with ***** on this order, and ***** remains adamant that Bud's has not reached out to them.

   

  Somebody's lying....

  
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ****** ****

  

  Business response

  04/24/2024

  We understand the frustration and apologize again for the inconvenience.  Our shipping department was in contact with ***** once we were notified of the issue and they were following the investigation.  We did get conformation that the items were shipped out and in transit by the carrier and we did give some time for the package to update and be delivered since the initial investigation was closed.  Unfortunately, it does appear that even though the package was confirmed to have been received it was not able to be updated with future scans so it did appear to still be lost in transit.  We were able to re-open the investigation into the issue and the claim has been confirmed.  We have since issued a full refund to the customer under the shipping insurance that was purchased.   The refund will go back to the original payment method that was used to place the order.

• Initial Complaint

  04/04/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Resolved

  More info

  I have been the victim of what I believe to be a marketing/advertising error by Bud's Gun Shop. 1. received one case and two boxes of shells. 2. I was charged for THREE CASES, not ONE CASE and TWO BOXES of shells from this specific distributor. 3. If you are saying I was supposed to pay CASE PRICE for single boxes (2) of shells, then Buds would be correct in denying my claim. I sent in a photo of the website page which shows the FULL CASE PRICE, but reflects a confusing verbiage. That specific item has yet to be corrected (please see for yourself!!!). 4. Apparently, given your lack of willingness to provide a direct customer service phone number or individual to speak with directly, I am being penalized $163.80. 5. AGAIN, I was charged $181.98 (90.99 for 2 boxes of shells). I am requesting a refund in the amount of $163.80 ($181.98 - $18.18 for the 2 boxes of shells actually received, NOT 2 CASES...please look at the web page where it identifies 10 boxes per case). The above was sent to Bud's via email on the 4th explanation of what occurred. Bud's does not have any direct phone number to discuss any mis-shipment. I truly believe this is an unintentional error by their warehouse. I don't know of ANYONE who would pay $90.00 for a single box of 25 shotgun shells unless the shot was gold. I have spent a frustrating amount of time trying to get a resolution. This included pictures of both boxes containing the product shipped *********. I returned to the website and and took pictures for Bud's reference. The web page did not specify a full case as all other items do. Bud's has corrected this and I showed them the new web page and thanked them for correcting this error. Bottom line: I'm a simple guy and willing to accept the shipment of balance owed 18 boxes of 25 rounds, a refund for the difference, or I can even return the 2 boxes (at my cost) for a refund. I cannot speak with anyone directly, and frankly, exhausted with the lack of support from Bud's.

  

  Business response

  04/04/2024

  We are very sorry for the issues that arose with this order.  Upon reviewing the order we did receive notice of 2 missing cases of ammunition on this order which our representatives requested photos so that we could notify our shipping claims department.  Unfortunately, there was a misunderstanding by the representative as they submitted the claim for one of the other items that matched the description on the listing which caused the claim to be denied.  We apologize for this misunderstanding.  We have confirmed that the item in question that the customer was referring to a case, and that listing has not been updated as that is the correct listing for the UPC information listed.  However, there was a feed error from one of our warehouses at the time which linked their boxes inventory to this listing which is what caused the 2 boxes to be shipped in place of the two cases.  That feed error has been corrected, and we have issued a full refund to the customer for the items that were incorrectly shipped.  We apologize again for the inconvenience and misunderstanding.

  Customer response

  04/07/2024

  
  Better Business Bureau:
  
  I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me. 

  I was relieved that someone at Buds actually understood exactly what had happened. I'm confident that Bud's will apply the stated refund shortly. Up until this situation, Bud's has been an acceptable company to work with.  If this refund is not seen this coming week, I will advise Bud's first, the BBB next.

  Thanks BBB for your involvement and professionalism. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ****** *****

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• Initial Complaint

  03/28/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Delivery Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I purchased a new firearm from this online vendor. It was defective. When I tried to return it, they would not honor their stated returns policy written on their website. Their policy states: Used Guns: Customers have 10 calendar days from the date of transfer to request a return, unless the Buds Lifetime Warranty is purchased. *************** will accept a return on your used item for a full refund during this time frame if the item is malfunctioning. Shipping arrangements for the used item will be made solely at *************** discretion. If items are found defective upon receipt, *************** will provide YOUR CHOICE of a replacement item (pending availability) or full refund AND pay the return shipping cost. For your added convenience, *************** will also arrange for the defective items to be picked up and returned to us by the original shipper (for firearms only). Clearly the firearm was used. How else would I know it to be defective. I tried to return it three days after receiving it. Don't buy from this online vendor. Use a local gun show that will honor their own policies.

  

  Business response

  03/28/2024

  We are very sorry to hear the customer was not happy with their firearm.  However, as the customer noted in their initial message, they purchased a new firearm, not a used firearm.  So our used gun return policy would not apply.  Our return policy for factory new firearms states that we can only take returns of a firearm before it is transferred, if any issues are found after the transfer has been completed for a factory new firearm those would be covered under the warranty offered by the manufacturer.  The manufacturer would be able to assist the customer with the issue under the terms of their warranty.  We have offered to provide the customer the information so that they can start this process.

  Customer response

  03/28/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:
  

  The firearm was new when I bought it. Now its used. How else would I know that it was defective other than using it. Your policy is very clearly written and you should follow your own policy.

  I will never shop at Buds Discount Scam shop again.

  ****

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