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    • Complaint Type:
      Order Issues
      Status:
      Resolved
      Subject: Unfair Deposit Policy at BMW of West St. Louis I am lodging a complaint against BMW of West St. Louis for unfair business practices regarding their deposit policy. On April 10, 2024, I visited the dealership to consider purchasing a *** X7 for my husband. Representing him due to his work commitments, negotiations occurred concerning trade-ins, with a non-contractual document outlining their best offer presented.The salesperson, *******************, requested a $1010 deposit to "hold" the vehicle until my husband could inspect it. No mention was made of the deposit being nonrefundable. The next day, my husband found the vehicle lacked a necessary hitch and sought a better trade-in valuation. Negotiations for an alternative vehicle failed, partly due to the threat of deposit retention despite no signed agreement.Despite our clear decision not to proceed, the dealership refused to refund the deposit, claiming it was nonrefundable, a term never agreed upon. This practice is deceptive and unfair.Moreover, attempting to bind us to terms stated as "not a contract" is troubling. The document was an "invitation to negotiate," lacking legal force.Requested ************* of the $1010 deposit.Investigation by the Better Business Bureau into BMW of West St. Louis for unfair practices.Revision of the deposit policy to ensure transparency and fairness, with terms clearly communicated to consumers.

      Customer response

      04/19/2024

      The dealership has refunded the deposit, so this matter is resolved and the complaint can be closed.  Thank you for your assistance.

       

      *******************
      **********************

      ************

       

    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I have paid for a fuel leak repair under a state safety inspection and now I am being told that more parts are need to be replaced on the car to fix this issue because the brand new parts that were put on to fix the issue did not fix the issue. I have talked to 2 other repair shops that do BMW repairs and their response was if we fix the car and it is not fixed we either fix it or refund it.  This is an an 18 year old car but they told me that these other things needed to replaced. at around 2000 and now they are telling me its going to be around 4000 dollars in total. I feel they have used fraud and deceitful business practices to bait me into paying an amount I would not have normally paid on a car that is 18 years old. I have spoken with the service manager and I was given the number for the director without ever receiving a call back. and I have left 2 voicemails for the highway patrol and state safety inspection as well. This is considered fraud because it involves the State Safety inspection I dropped my car off in May and is still there. I didn't complain about the price and they replaced it under warranty and now its still leaking. The most they will give me is half of the cost of the part to replace. The part costs 70 dollars. I would have to pay the entire cost of labor. Instead of owning up to their mistake and admitting that the brand new parts they put on the car did not fix it, they instead are charging me more money, money I would not have agreed to pay in the first place. 

      Business response

      07/06/2023

       Mr. ****,


      When your vehicle was brought in for a safety inspection on June 2nd we found that the vehicle failed for 2 items. A leaking fuel rail and play in the right rear wheel bearing. Per our discussion you had the vehicle at another facility prior to us that had failed the vehicle for the same items. After approval for replacement of the fuel rail and wheel bearing your repair was dispatched to another technician that also verified the leaking fuel rail, 3 different technicians had verified the fuel rail leak. 1 at another facility and 2 at this facility. After replacement of the fuel rail the vehicle was then reinspected and no fuel leaks were found at that time. 


      When you returned the vehicle to us at the end of June we again found that the fuel rail was leaking. We had suspicions that the fuel feed line to the rail was leaking as well but before we jumped directly to that we replaced the fuel rail again at no charge as this was a parts warranty. We monitored the vehicle after the fuel rail replacement and determined that the feed line was in fact leaking. Our determination is that after the fuel rail was replaced and full pressure was restored to the fuel supply system the fuel line bagan to leak.


      We completely understand your frustration and are happy to provide you assistance with the additional repairs.  The total for replacement of the fuel feed line is $1525.00. Taking into account what you have already spent on the vehicle we are willing to split the repair 50/50. This would bring your total to $762.50. Hopefully this is a satisfactory solution. 


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      Regards,


      **** ******* ******* ******* *** ** **** *** ***** ************ *** ***

      Customer response

      07/14/2023

      I have reject the Offer to repair at additional cost. I have reported the falsification of Missouri State Safety Inspection to the Missouri State Highway Patrol office Troop C and filed a complaint with the Missouri States Attorney Generals office.

      My vehicle is still not safe to operate on the road and it has been so since June 2, 2023. After granting BMW of West St. Louis additional time to consider the implications of filing a false State Safety inspection, they have refused to repair the car without further payment. I feel these are the definitions of Fraud and Extortion and have reported such to the States AG office and the MO HP inspection office.

      Further Action from the BBB will not be necessary as the complaint has now escalated to a felony.

      Business response

      07/14/2023

      We feel the original response is more than sufficient at this time .

      We feel the customer has esculated the complaint to a criminal accusation .

      We therefore do not intend to coment further on this issue.

      I am sorry for not being able to rationally resolve this. 

      If the customer would like to discuss this further he may call.

      ******* **** ******* ******** ******* ********** ***** ************ *** ***  

      Customer response

      07/14/2023

      Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because: The Business has not attempted to resolve the repair that was billed as repaired and falsified a Legal Document with the State (stating the vehicle has passed state safety inspection).

      I have been without my Vehicle for 3 weeks as they did not have the parts or the repair technician able to install the parts on two occasions. (requiring 3-5 business days each time) plus weekends and holidays

      The repair of a fuel leak identified on the state safety inspection as a reason to fail the vehicle was charged but did not fix the fuel leak.

      The business offered to apply half of the parts and labor charged towards an additional $1755 in repairs to "hopefully fix" the fuel leak.

      The business had two separate technicians identify the fuel rail as the reason for the fuel leak on two subsequent repairs but the replacement has not resolved the fuel leak. There is still a fuel leak. They delivered the car back to me leaking fuel.

      As a BMW dealer and repair shop, they should have a better understanding of the problems associated with this vehicle and its issues more than other general automotive repair shops.

      As a State Licensed Safety Inspection Station, They should not have certified to the state that the vehicle was safe to travel on Missouri roads.

      If the business had indicated that the repairs required to get the vehicle legal to pass the state safety inspection was $3,480 instead of $2153, I would have declined the repair and opted to have another shop service my vehicle.

      As it stands, It feels as though the business is trying to extort an additional $1,327.50 to repair my car so that I can use it. 

      After giving the business ample opportunity (more than six weeks) to rectify their mistakes at their own expense, I have been forced to seek assistance from the authorities that allow them to operate in this state.

      It has been 6 weeks since I dropped my car off for safety inspection and it resides in my garage with a fuel leak unsafe to travel on the road.

      At this point, I am seeking a full refund on the repairs that I had paid this business to the total of $2,125.85 minus the State Safety Inspection cost of $12 for a total of $2,113.85 So that I can take the vehicle to another shop to fix the fuel leak and allow me to operate my vehicle safely.

      Sincerely,

      ***** ****

      Business response

      07/18/2023

      This customer is being unreasonable and has threghtened legal action.

      Has stated in the last response , we will not be arguing our legal position through the BBB.

      Please call if you have any further questions.

      ******* **** ******* ******** ******* ********** ***** ************ *** *** ** ******** * *** ***

      Customer response

      07/18/2023

      Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because:

      Despite being given multiple opportunities to rectify their mistake at their own expense, the business has decided to not fix the problem they were paid to fix without an additional $1.400.00 being paid 

      As far as legal matter are concerned, I have not mentioned any litigation on my part. I have simply notified the dealership that if they chose to not rectify their error, that I shall need to forward my complaints to the Highway Patrol Safety Inspection Board for passing a vehicle that is unsafe to drive and to the ******** ****** ******** ********* ****** ******** ***** ********** for charging for work and not completing the work paid for. 

      This has left me with a lack of confidence in the dealership to repair their brand of vehicle and feel that they have no concern for customer satisfaction and would rather deal with matters in court than assume the responsibility for their mistakes in improper diagnosis of a fuel leak twice by two different technicians.

      As my vehicle has been unsafe to drive since the inspection six weeks ago, I feel that consumers need to be aware that repairs at this facility may cost twice or three times the stated rate.

      Sincerely,

      ***** ****

    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I purchased a part from this company on 2/23/23. The parts person told me it would be in the next day and it wasn't. I had to go out of town for a month. Before I left, I put a stop payment on the check. I tried to use my card out of town and it declined. They told me there was suspicous activity. I came back home and BMW told me I was going to take the parts because I ordered them. I never took possession of the parts. The dealership took the money out of my account. The account is closed down. I showed BMW the information from the bank. They told $3889.54.

      Business response

      03/14/2023

      I am the Service Director. I am  personally working on this.
      We are more than happy to refund the credit card, however the account was closed. I have called the bank and left a message for them to verify this is a real transaction, but they have not returned the  call. When a person pays with a credit card than wants money back, it is typically a scam. We need to go through a process to confirm the is a legitimate transaction. It was a large amount of money.

       




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      ****** ****
      Service Director
      ******* ********** *****
      *************

    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I took my 2011 BMW X5 in on December 5. I still have not received it back. It was only for a minor coolant hose leak. They fixed the coolant problem but now there is a sound coming from the car. I was told it was a pulley and the alternator. I ended up getting towed back to them. I had to pay for a new drive shaft. When I drove it from the lot it broke down literally right around the corner. Now they are telling me there is a hole in the transmission. I told them I would pay for the transmission but then they said there was something else wrong with it which would be about another 6000. I did tell them when I first brought the car in that I would eventually get a new car. I feel like they took that comment to make more issues to try to get me to buy a car with them.

      Business response

      01/09/2023

      We are sorry for the trouble you are experiencing with your vehicle. Unfortunately the failure of the driveshaft and the damage that failure caused to the transmission was completely unpredictable and in no way related to the cooling system work we had previously done. As we have discussed as a token of goodwill we are happy to offer to repair the vehicle at our cost. This repair is still expensive as you are aware even at cost it exceeds the value of the vehicle. My advice to you is to explore purchase of a different vehicle. We are happy to help you explore this option as well. Please let me know how I can be of assistance. 

      **** *******

      BMW of West S.Louis Service Manager


      Customer response

      01/17/2023

      I am not in a position where I can look for another car.  Since the offer was made as a good will effort for you to repair the car at your cost, I'll agree to that. I understand from your statement that there will be no charge to me.  I would like to get my repaired car back as soon as possible.
    • Complaint Type:
      Customer Service Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      We purchased a brand new 740i in March 2022. Since that time we cannot get any customer service from this dealership. Phones are NEVER answered. NEVER. Materials we were supposed to get with our car, we never got. Service department or finance dept NEVER follow through. I tried to call the service advisors AGAIN this morning 3x. All there is is an answering machine. Poor customer service when there is nobody to talk to customers during regular business hours.

      Business response

      07/13/2022


      *****,

      we are sorry you had issues getting a hold of our dealership. 

      We expect all customers to be able to speak with someone right away when they need something.  We are checking now to see if there are any phone issues we can resolve. 

      I'm being told *** ****, our business manager, spoke with you within the last couple weeks and is in the process of getting the information requested. 

      Our service manager is reaching out to you now to take care of any service concerns. 

      Hopefully we can get everything taken care of right away and that we can provide you the service you deserve with future contact. 

      If you need anything in the future, please contact me. 

      ***** ***** ******************

       

       

    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      Roughly 3 weeks ago I dropped my *** M5 off at the dealership. the car started and ran just did not move. They initially diagnosed the vehicle with a $8900 **** to repair the vehicle. I specifically asked my service advisor "*****" "Will this give me a running and driving vehicle?" he responded "Yes". After further evaluation, he determined my vehicle needed a new head which then gave me a shop **** of $16,957.17. I had no choice but top pay it as my alternative was paying $8900 to pick the vehicle up broken. Now this is where my issue comes in. ***** called me on 6/28/22 around 4:30pm but I missed his call. I had called back around 7:30am on 6/29/22 and he told me "Well, we got the car running". I responded "Really? sweet! is it running good?". now this is where my frustration happens. HE tells me "Yeah its running really well, the mechanic even got on it a few times. only issue is it smokes slightly from old oil in the turbos." So, I go and pick the vehicle up and after telling me I can use debit or a check, They tell me they cant accept that so I go to the bank and get a cashiers check. Once I return and pick up the vehicle, I made it a mile down the road MAYBE and my vehicle is saying "Drivetrain malfunction" and has a check engine light for P1328 (Knock Sensor 2 (bank 1) High output). After doing some research I see that part is located in the area they were initially working. The response ***** gave me was "drive a couple days and then call me". I do not care for my money back, I just want the car fixed properly rather than given the run around and keep throwing money away I can not afford. I am looking to take legal actions if nothing can be resolved. I have sold my personal car and pulled 2 loans to afford this major repair. I am now out of a car and $20,000. I am writing this on my computer so I can not upload documents but I do have the reciept of work performed and a print out of the time I pulled the engine code

      Business response

      06/30/2022

      The vehicle is currentlt back in the shop. *********** is working with our service manager . He has been  assured him we are on his side and are doing eveything in our power to help him get this resolved.

       

      Customer response

      06/30/2022

      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is starting to look a lot better after speaking with a few of the managers but would like to wait and see how they handle the rest of the situation before moving further.

      Sincerely,

      ***********************

      Customer response

      08/18/2022

      this was my initial complaint and I held off to see how the business was going to handle it because I do not want to publicly bash them but I feel beyond ripped off at this point. Roughly 3 weeks ago I dropped my BMW M5 off at the dealership. the car started and ran just did not move. They initially diagnosed the vehicle with a $8900 bill to repair the vehicle. I specifically asked my service advisor "*****" "Will this give me a running and driving vehicle?" he responded "Yes". After further evaluation, he determined my vehicle needed a new head which then gave me a shop bill of $16,957.17. I had no choice but top pay it as my alternative was paying $8900 to pick the vehicle up broken. Now this is where my issue comes in. ***** called me on 6/28/22 around 4:30pm but I missed his call. I had called back around 7:30am on 6/29/22 and he told me "Well, we got the car running". I responded "Really? sweet! is it running good?". now this is where my frustration happens. HE tells me "Yeah its running really well, the mechanic even got on it a few times. only issue is it smokes slightly from old oil in the turbos." So, I go and pick the vehicle up and after telling me I can use debit or a check, They tell me they cant accept that so I go to the bank and get a cashiers check. Once I return and pick up the vehicle, I made it a mile down the road MAYBE and my vehicle is saying "Drivetrain malfunction" and has a check engine light for P1328 (Knock Sensor 2 (bank 1) High output). After doing some research I see that part is located in the area they were initially working. I am looking to take legal actions if nothing can be resolved. I have sold my personal car and pulled 2 loans to afford this major repair. I am now out of a car and $20,000. Now they say the car needs a motor and they "will work with me on labor". I feel I should be reimbursed or vehicle fixed on their expense because of the misdiagnosis. I paid $1500 just to get the car fixed enough to diagnose initially.

      Repair; Refund; At this point I would like a refund of my $17,000 or a motor put in my vehicle and fixed correctly. BMW is now trying to charge me for a used motor

      Business response

      08/18/2022

      This vehicle initially arrived at our shop not running. We inspected the vehicle and found multiple fuel leaks. We advised that the fuel leaks needed to be repaired before any other diagnosis could be done.

      During repair of the fuel leaks we found that the fuel injectors were stuck and the cylinder head on bank 1 needed to be removed in order for the fuel injector to be removed & replaced.

      During removal of the cylinder head we found that the cylinder head was damaged. We then advised to either replace the entire motor or the cylinder head at this point.

      The customer elected to replace the cylinder head.

      We replaced the cylinder head and got the vehicle running.

      After pick up the customer did return with a drivetrain malfuntion warning and we have determined that there is internal damage to the engine and have advised replacement. 

      Because Mr. **** has spent a large amount of money with us I have offered to work with him on the cost to replace the engine.

      We are currently in the process of locating a suitable used engine for the customer and as soon as we do we will work with the customer to replace it.

      **** *******

      Service Manager

      BMW of West St. Louis

      Customer response

      08/18/2022

      Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because:

      I feel as if this is the same circle of conversations we keep having. I would like a direct answer from someone at the company. I feel no one has reached out and given me a DIRECT answer. Everyone is aware if these damages were caught in the diagnosis that I PAID FOR then almost all repairs would have been rejected. Also, if I received a "good running vehicle that only smokes a little on acceleration because of oil buildup in the turbos", we would have never come to this. I want the dealer to admit fault in the situation and handle it accordingly. I am not made of money. I am 20 years old and work 70+ hours a week for the things that I own. I can not afford to spend another $10,000 on a used motor and then be "helped with labor". I would like someone to reach out and tell me what the plan of action is financially. If no one can give me a definite answer I plan on filing a lawsuit with my private attorney. I have never been more confident of a wrongdoing by a major cooperation than I am now. I am not even mad aat any specific individual. I just feel this entire situation has been handled very poorly and I am beyond devastated with the dealerships representation of BMW. If this was a customer of mine at my personal dealership I know i would feel beyond embarrassed but nonetheless, address the situation and try to fix it. I have tried to be laxed and let them handle the situation but it has now been MONTHS and I have gotten very little answers and the ones I do have are very vague and along the lines of "we care about you, we are going to take care of you." I have reached out to BMW of north America directly as well. I have pulled out high interest personal loans, sold my 2nd vehicle and was forced to purchase a $600 car to get back and forth to work because of the situation currently. I can not even move forward in purchasing a home for me or my family because everything I own is tied up into a vehicle that has been at the dealer for 3 or so months now. The communication from the very second I spoke to the service advisor ***** has been poor.
      Sincerely,

      ******* ****

      Business response

      08/26/2022

       Mr. **** ,

      after our conversations we decided to perform additional diagnosis and engine tear down to determine the extent of the internal engine issue and potential for repair, this tear down was done at no charge. We suspected the possibility of a bent rod and offered to replace the bent rod at no charge if this was all that was found.  During the additional diagnosis we have determined that the fault stored is for the knock sensor monitoring cylinders 3 & 4 is reporting excessive noise. We removed the upper oil pan and found that the cylinder 1 connecting rod is bent. The bent rod is causing the noise and the warning to come on. We performed further inspection using a borescope and found scoring on the cylinder 1 wall caused by the piston being shoved to one side. We have determined that in addition to the bent rod there is damage to the cylinder block and it will require replacement as well. We requested Mr. **** to come out to show him our findings and make our assistance offer. He did not wish to do that.


      To replace the engine block at MSRP is 24763.94. Because Mr. **** spent a good amount of money with us to get the vehicle running in the first place we will offer to repair the vehicle at no charge for labor. Mr. **** would pay the cost of parts which is $8600.00.



      Our additional diagnosis has shown that this problem is on the passenger side engine bank, not the drivers side and the issue was likely present prior to the work we performed and there was no way for us to predict or know that there were issues on the other side of the engine due to the fact of the vehicle arriving at our center in a non-running condition.


      We believe this is a fair offer to resolve this issue.

    • Complaint Type:
      Sales and Advertising Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      This auto dealership unfairly depicts its assets online, deceiving potential buyers. Their representatives lie about availability and price.

      Business response

      06/23/2022

      Mr ****** we have tried to reach out to you with no luck. 

      We looked back at conversations and at no point did anyone lie to you about price or availability.

        Suntrup would not allow our employees to lie to a customer. 

      We always ask to verify any pricing or availability with our client advisors. 

      Inventory is moving very fast at this time and we do our best to only display vehicles that are available. 

      Please contact us at your earliest convenience and we will try to rectify the issue.  

    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      hi, i am a resident of chicago and i purchased a 2021 bmw from bmw of west st. louis. when i picked the car up and completed the paperwork on october 15, 2021, i was given a check payable to the city of chicago for $486.09 which they said was for chicago city tax (the $486.09 was included in the price of the car). the dealership said i would be receiving a bill from the city for the tax, but when 6 months passed and i hadn’t received a bill, i reached out to my salesman to let him know.  he told me to send him the check and they would cut a new check payable to me. on may 6 he received the check and he told me that the new check would be mailed to me the next week. on may 31 i e.mailed to let him know i hadn’t received the check and he said he would follow up with his business manager when he returned from vacation on friday, june 3 and that he would get back to me. friday passed and then the weekend and i heard nothing, so i followed up the next week with e.mails and left a number of voicemails for the business manager, *** ****, but he never returned my calls. it’s now june 13, five weeks after the dealership received the check i sent back and i still don’t have the new check payable to me. i left a number of voicemails for the business manager, *** ****, throughout the week of june 6 and got zero response. i can only conclude that they have no intention of returning this money, which is why i’m contacting the bbb.

      Business response

      06/14/2022

      Mr. ****, we are sorry that we had some miscommunication on our end.  Our finance manager did send the check to the office and thought they had already sent you the check.  I'm sorry for our lack of communication, that is not how we expect our customers to be treated.  We are getting the check overnighted to you.  We will do better next time with our communication, if you need anything in the future, please reach out to me. 
      Sincerely,
      ***** ***** ******* ********** ***** ******** ******************

      Customer response

      06/19/2022

      Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because:

      *****,
      *** may have initially thought the office sent the check out, but a week before your bbb reply he knew otherwise and chose to do nothing - he didn’t get the check cut/sent out and he didn’t return my phone calls.


      he did call tuesday morning and he left a voicemail, first saying that he was pretty sure the office was going overnight the check that day and when they did he would send me the tracking number. after that, though, he said he wanted to let me know he got the message and that “we will shoot that out as soon as possible”. he sounded completely indifferent; he offered nothing in the way of an apology and he accepted zero responsibility for the mishap - instead directing it towards “the office”. 


      i’ve heard nothing from him since.


      i’ve been out of town, so i’m not sure if the check was sent and *** just never followed up with the tracking information or if the plan is still to shoot it out as soon as possible, but i suppose i’ll find out when i get home later this week.


      i live in chicago and the only reason i bought my car there was because you were the only dealership within 1000 miles that had any 2021 models available (a number of them, actually). so, while i appreciate your promise to “do better” next time, there probably won’t be a next time. however, according to online reviews, others have had similar experiences when working with your dealership, so perhaps you could have your people strive to do better with every customer, every time, instead.    



      Sincerely,

      ****** ****

    • Complaint Type:
      Customer Service Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      Many years ago, I bought a new BMW from BMW of West St. Louis. Now, they are calling my personal cell phone to ask if I want to sell the car to them. (1) I don't own this car anymore. (2) I told them, repeatedly, that they did not have permission to call my personal cell phone. They contacted me in 2020, I told them to never contact me again. They called me again in July 2021, I told them to never call me again. Yet, once again this morning I received an unwanted phone call from them. They continue to regularly call me. This is harassment, pure and simple. They need to be stopped. How do I get a business to stop harassing me? This is unacceptable behavior. Thank you for your help, I appreciate it. -****

      Business response

      11/23/2021

      Mr. ***********, I apologize for the inconvenience.

      I see that your number was taken out of almost all systems. 

      It looks like it was still in one of our systems from when you purchased your vehicle from us. 

      There was no mal intent, when you called a year ago it looks like someone did try to get you out of all systems and forgot about one.

      I have looked at all software that we use and made sure your phone number and email is out of our software and databases.

      Keep in mind, there are companies like Carvana out there buying lists from the DMV and matching up to phone numbers out there and cold calling customers. 

      I have had many friends tell me about this.  I can't help it if another company calls you if they bought a list from the DMV. 

      I can tell you that no one from Suntrup Automotive should contact you again about your vehicle.  Again, I apologize for the inconvenience. 





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      ***** *****
      Suntrup Automotive
      Sales Director
      a*****@suntrup.com
      (314)894-2311 ext 324

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