ComplaintsforBackyard Leisure, LLC

• Initial Complaint

  06/27/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Resolved

  More info

  Took 6 to 8 moths to get hot tub and received it missing parts and also cover damaged and the Manager was told but did nothing wouldnt return calls or nothing so gave up . Saw that numerous people are coming forward with complaints about this company. We thought it was just us .

  Customer response

  07/08/2024

  I have not heard from the business in response to my complaint.

  
  

  

  Business response

  08/14/2024

  We were unaware of the issues with this customer's spa.  The manager for the Concord location left the company several months ago and left no notes concerning this customer.  If the customer would contact our Kernersville location at ************ of **************** and give us more information we can work on a solution.  

  Customer response

  08/15/2024

  Better Business Bureau:
  
  I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and I accept it. They are going to reach out to me on Monday and see if the problem can get resolved 

• Initial Complaint

  03/23/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  We ordered a spa from the ************ store on July 30, 2023. We were told it would be in at the end of October 2023. We have talked with the salesmen numerous times and emailed the company about why we have not received it yet. He had told us that ******* keeps telling them it is on the next truck. It is now mid March and the spa still has not been delivered.

  

  Business response

  03/27/2024

  Due to many different circumstances we are running behind on getting our spas in.  We are working diligently to get all orders delivered.  The ****** spa is scheduled to begin production next week and we should have it in 3-4 weeks.  We will get it delivered as soon as possible after we receive it.  Thank you for your business and patience.  

  Customer response

  03/27/2024

   I am rejecting this response because:  we were told that the spa would be delivered by the end of October 2023.  They have told us numerous times that the spa will be on the next truck.  Now they are telling us it has not even been built yet.  We have been one lie after another.  We want 100 % our money back.
  
  
  

  

  Business response

  03/27/2024

  We understand the customer's frustration at the delays.  However, this spa has been paid for and will be ready shortly.  We will notify the customer to schedule delivery when it is on the way.  

  Customer response

  03/28/2024

   I am rejecting this response because:  they have mislead us on the status of our order.  In July we were told the spa world be in by the end of October.  Since October we have been told numerous times it is on the next truck.  Now we are being told the spa has not been built yet.  We want the truth.
  
  
  

• Initial Complaint

  02/26/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Delivery Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  We ordered a spa from backyard leisure pool and spa On 9/9/23 We were told to allow 60 to ********************************************************* emails stating delay. There is never any answer on the phone. Its now 6 months later and we are paying our portion we financed and we paid half in cash Covid ended 4 years ago that can not be their excuse

  

  Business response

  03/04/2024

  This customer did purchase in September as stated.  We are working to get this spa delivered as soon as we can.  We appreciate your business and your patience.  

  Customer response

  03/19/2024

   I am rejecting this response because:  

  I just received both letters in the mail, dated 3/4/24 and 3/11/24 The Buisness did not respond to the communication any differently than to us.

  We would like to just get a refund of the purchase at this point. I had to put in special electrical for this spa that cost $3000.  The spa was said to be delivered in 60 to 80 days from purchase (9/9/23), it is now  7 months and 10 days later (210 days) well past the 60 to 80 days time frame. The business still does not have a date  for delivery.

  Their response was they are working on it . We would like a full refund and this point.

  But  the business will not ***** us a refund.

  BBB#********-9f910

   

  *****************************

  Sent from my iPad

  
  
  
  

  

  Business response

  03/27/2024

  This customer's hot tub is currently in production at the manufacturer and should be shipping soon.  We expect to have it delivered in the next 3-4 weeks.  

  Customer response

  04/04/2024

   I am rejecting this response because:  

  Good Morning

    The response from the business is nothing different than before, It has always been 60 Sent from my iPad

  
  
  
  

  

  Business response

  04/04/2024

  This customer's spa is currently on a truck headed to us.  We can get this customer delivered next week.  Again, we appreciate your business and your patience.  

  Customer response

  04/16/2024

   I am rejecting this response because:  

  Good Morning
     The delivery of Spa finally happened however it arrived damaged and not working
  The Control panel only flickers and will not turn on to operate the spa. The exterior has cracked and the sides are not sealed.
  I emailed the Vendor and they said they will file a warranty claim. How long will the warranty process take. I havent even filled the spa with water because whats the point. We can not even to turn it on, and well it will probably be winter before anything happens with their track record. I wonder if this delivery happened so they could be removed from the complaint list.
  
  So, now we have ********* lawn ornament.
  *****************************
  
  
  
  

  
  

  

  Business response

  04/16/2024

  We have scheduled a service call for April 19 to check the topside controller issue.  The broken panel pieces were ordered from the manufacturer on 4/10.  

  It is unfortunate and unusual for a hot tub to have issues right out of the box, but we will work to get this unit up and running as quickly as possible for the customer.  

• Initial Complaint

  11/27/2023

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Resolved

  More info

  Ordered hot tub on 6.21, Backyard Leisure had money on 6.21. Confirmed by ******** money was not sent to them until 11.8 after I called manufacturer and found out my tub was not released for production. For months Backyard Leisure told me my hot tub was delayed by manufacturer (lying verbally to me). I would call weekly to get an update. At this point I have requested the order to be cancelled. Backyard Leisure is dodging me & owner Alan ****** refuses to call me. Will be reporting with BBB and following up on my police report that has been filed. I have talked with an another prior customer & he experienced similar behavior (dodging his calls etc.). This is a crime to take consumers money & not perform obligations, will also be consulting an attorney. Feels like a class action lawsuit coming soon based on similar reviews I am seeing regarding delays.

  

  Business response

  12/06/2023

  This customer's order did take longer than promised to arrive.  We were behind on orders and were trying to get them all fulfilled.  This customer was delivered on 11/28/2023.

  Customer response

  12/06/2023

  Better Business Bureau:
  
  I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and I accept it.  Please note- they were not behind on orders they were not placing orders with the manufacturer.  This has been documented and they did immediately get me the hot tub once I discovered the issue.  

• Initial Complaint

  02/20/2023

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  A PURE JOKE OF A COMPANY TO DEAL WITH; save yourself stress, money and a major mess. If this review saves at least 1 person from living this nightmare; it was well worth my time. We purchased a ******* ****** pool 2019, Backyard Leisure never came out to do a site assessment. Refused to get permits, that was our responsibility. Every step of the way was painful, me calling over and over and over to get answers. Low and Behold the septic lines were in the way of the install. I wanted Backyard Leisure to sell my pool to someone else and refund me the majority of money. They refused. John Told me there was room to put the pool in. This was in the middle of the Covid Pandemic. Was told the pool was ordered and we could not cancel. They claimed the pool was in stock, however after all the septic modifications were done and I contacted them to do the install in 2022; they didn't have the Pump, didn't have the robot vacuum, didn't have the rails, didn't have the lights I purchased. I still do not have a filter basket on 2/20/23. What a joke. They blatantly lied to me; they indeed sold my pool that I was told could not be cancelled. The whole process was a pure nightmare. I had to have my entire septic re-vamped. Lines moved, new lines added. 20K in addition to what I paid, 20k worth of soil brought in because it was not inground as it was supposed to be; not dug deep enough. This original Pool cost me 35k; It has now cost me well over 100k. The guys rescheduled the install 6 different times, the installers were unprofessional left cigarette butts, cardboard, and trash scattered everywhere. This is the most unprofessional place I have ever dealt with. Ryan, Nate, and Aaron continuously lied to me. Telling me what I wanted to hear rather than the facts, no one ever showed, repeat phone calls to get anything settled. A PURE JOKE OF A COMPANY TO DEAL with. They broke my driveway with their equipment and have failed to refund money as requested.

  

  Business response

  02/21/2023

  To whom it may concern,

   

  Backyard Leisure does not provide permits for above ground or semi above ground pools.  We are also not responsible for septic systems, we are not a septic company and require the customer to be aware of where their septic system is.  We also have a company policy of no returns, cancellations or exchanges of major ticket items such as this semi above ground pool.  Pool installations are major construction, we do our absolute best to prevent damage to yards and driveways, but ultimately excavation equipment and concrete trucks or similar vehicles can cause damage to driveways.  It is not common, but unfortunately can happen, and is not the fault of Backyard Leisure.  We are sorry this happened, but ultimately there was nothing that could be done.

   

  When it comes to installation, the pool was installed as far inground as possible, however the pool has to be higher than the ground around it or water will accumulate in the pool.  I have attached a photo for reference.
  

   

  Management will contact the customer to make sure they get the correct filter basket, or whatever else may still be needed.

   

  Thank you for your assistance in this matter.
  

  Customer response

  02/21/2023

   I am rejecting this response because:
  I didn't say backyard leisure was responsible for the Septic, however Backyardleisure is responsible for my driveway because the crew was instructed to go through the side lawn, not my driveway.  And like all other aspects of this job did as they wanted.  No where does it say that the pool could not be sold to another individual.  Backyard lesire lied and my pool was not in stock. It took Months after you were told to install to get the rails, and then the filter, and then the robot vaccum.  It was all a farce.  Lies after lies.  the pool could have been cancelled and i told you the situation right away; months before I was told the pool was in stock.  I have all the text messages that can prove this.  I can also prove that communication was non-existen; one sided by me. BACKYARD Leisure is not a company that anyone should deal with.  No one from Backyard leisure or the install company helped get anything set up and the pool running.  we were left to do all of that on our own.  After spending 35k dollars with this business I am offered ZERO help.  When should I be begging for the pool basket still almost a year later.   I had to make the drive to ******* just to get a vacuum to make due because Mine that I purchased nearly 3 years prior was not in stock.     Very dishonest business and employees.   No thanks, never again!  Buyer beware.  Go to a reputable pool company locally that cares about you!

   

   

  
  

• Initial Complaint

  11/28/2022

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  We purchased a above ground pool from backyard leisure in June 2020. The pool was to be installed in September, they came to do grading and site prep around 9/10, then we had rain move in so install was pushed out a couple of weeks. They did all the grading as well as hauling additional dirt in and padding the area with the sand base. The pool was installed, filled and shut down for winter. We opened the pool in 2021 and thoroughly enjoyed it. We shut it down for 2021, and noticed that when we opened in 2022, the water was a lot lower than we thought it should be. We then noticed that more was leaking, so we bought a patch and put on the hole. We contacted BYL at this time,via email, and after several emails, I was asked to send pictures which I did. Then the plan was made by Brandon to fix the issue on October 18,2022. I was contacted by Nate and was told that this wasn't a mfg defect as it appeared that the metal support post had punctured the liner, and that if we would need to file a complaint with the frame builders, but that in the meantime if I would buy the liner they'd do the install for 50% of their normal costs. Brandon had also told us to have the pool drained before they came to replace, which we did. Why would they have us do all this work and then not follow through? I can provide emails and pictures of the issue.

  Customer response

  12/11/2022

  I have not heard from the business in response to my complaint.

  
  

  

  Business response

  12/21/2022

    The customer's pool was installed 2 years ago.  Our labor warranty covers one year.  The issue with the liner is not a warranty issue because the manufacturer only covers seam separations which is where the pieces of vinyl become unglued.  This situation is a cut, which is not uncommon after use of a pool.  If it is due to an issue with the framing, the customer would need to file a warranty claim with the pool manufacturer, ******.  

    Backyard Leisure could replace the liner but the customer would need to purchase the new liner.  We also offered to discount our installation rate which is normally $650 down to $325 to help out.  The customer would be responsible for paying for water to refill the pool.

    The customer used this pool for a full season without any issues. The issues that the customer has are not covered under the liner's warranty or Backyard Leisure's labor warranty, therefore the customer is responsible for paying for a replacement.  
  

   

  Thanks,

  Jeff ********

  Backyard Leisure

  Customer response

  12/27/2022

   I am rejecting this response because:
  A. This business was intending to fix this issue because they advised us to drain the pool before they arrived.

  B. I don't understand how this business can give warranty only on parts of their product but not all of the product.

  C. This is extremely poor customer service and at the price I paid for this pool I expected better service. At this point I'm ready to give up on what should have been a wonderful addition to our home and lots of fun for family and friends. Instead I received one year of fun for our family. What a shame.

  
  

• Initial Complaint

  08/21/2022

  Complaint Type:

  Delivery Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I purchased a 14 Hydropool Sport AX from Backyard Leisure Pools, Spas, and Billiards at the former address 7817 National Service Road Shop 501 in Greensboro, NC 27409. The current location is 5150 Industrial Park Drive in Kernersville, NC 27284. I purchased the 14 Hydropool Sport AX for 23,659.00. I also paid for FiveStar Spa Delivery for 500.00, Bellagio Package Northern Lights 1,000, 1 Command for 549.00, and steps that were included for free. The entire cost of my purchase on 06/12/2021 was $27,443.29. As of 08/21/2022 I have a 14 Hydropool Sport AX that was delivered to me on June 08, 2022 damaged and non operational. The item was delivered to our home damaged and with all accessories sitting in stagnant water destroyed. The delivery was also made without any instructions or guidance as to how to startup the spa. We were assured upon purchase that all of these components would be included in the designated fees. The spa was also non operational with multiple leaks from multiple undetermined sources upon trying to fill the spa with water. I have maintained weekly and ultimately daily contact with Backyard Leisure since the initial January 2022 delivery went unmet and no contact was maintained in regards to my purchase. To better understand the extensive lengths my husband and I have made to receive a fully functioning spa can be detailed in the timeline of events and points of contact created. As of 08/21/2022 Backyard Leisure has not replied to a single email at the local or corporate level. I have not received any correspondence with BYL from anyone outside of a sales position despite written request, phone request, and in person visits. I have also communicated multiple times per week with HydroPool sales and territory employees with no resolution.

  

  Business response

  09/20/2022

  When the ******'s received there Swimspa and filled it up they immediately noticed they had several leaks. After the ******'s reached out to Backyard Leisure we reached out to our local Spa repair team. After several failed  attempts to get the correct parts from our manufacturer that took 8 weeks to get the correct parts the issue of the leaks are fixed. We have installed the correct cover and still need to replace a damaged panel and replace the foam that was cut away to fix the leaks. Backyard Leisure is still waiting on the foam from the manufacturer that was cut away to fix the leaks.  

  Customer response

  09/22/2022

   I am rejecting this response because:
  
  While my husband and I are grateful that the swim spa is working. We had to pursue legal action via a demand letter from our attorney to get these actions taken. The swim spa is still not restored to 100% because it is still missing all of the spray foam insulation. This assist in protecting the integrity of the spa. Also, we are still waiting on damaged panels from the initial delivery to be replaced as well as the contents damaged upon delivery that were submerged in stagnant water. Since my initial filing my husband and I have each made dozens of points of contact with the distribution company and the territory manager that works with BYL and BYL. My husband and I will accept all business responses once we have a 100% restored swim spa that is equivalent to a brand new model. 
  sincerely,

  ***** ******

• Initial Complaint

  06/30/2022

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  We purchased a Radiant Hybrid pool 3/16/22, scheduled to install 6/2/22and completed by 6/7/22 (with knowledge that weather could impact the installation). There has been terrible communication about scheduling my install. I have had to follow up each step to see when and what is next. Found out several times that we weren’t on the schedule and they scheduled it. We are now three weeks behind our scheduled time with one (one day) weather related delay. We have requested call backs and to speak to managers of the store and installation department. Neither have contacted us back, after their employees said they understood our frustration and would reach out to the installation manager. They sold us and installed the incorrect coping because no one asked what material we would be putting around the pool (though it was often discussed). We have inches of water growing algae. The store ordered the piece and we were told 3 dif. times they would call us when it was there. After requesting them to call and find out when it would be here they called back to tell us it was delivered two days prior. When asked to schedule install they asked us why it was ordered because they thought the job was complete. I had to explain why the coping was ordered and was told we’d get a call back by end of day to schedule. The process being described for backfilling my pool violates the manufacturer’s requirements by not doing the required installation steps, doing some that they specifically state not to do, and skips most recommended steps. I paid $$$$ extra for it to be partially buried, what for? When asked about the process and to speak to a manager, manager relayed a message to his employee that we could have it done that way but we would pay the extra costs. The employee(s) have reached out to the manager 3 times. It’s been over a week with no call back. When called back on 6/30 to schedule backfill he was unaware of our requests and would reach out to the manager again.

  

  Business response

  08/16/2022

  Backyard Leisure finished this project on 8/3/22.  As far as we know the customer is happy with the final result.  We have been trying to reach out to them for several days to confirm but have not received a response.  

• Initial Complaint

  05/24/2022

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  If you're thinking of doing business with Backyard Leisure, don't. You will regret it. My family was promised that our pool installation would be a seamless process completed by professionals. We have found out that the company does not care about their customers, uses deceptive sales practices (Eric), does not communicate with their customers, has inexperienced and unprofessional employees on the installation/grading team and will not rectify any issues. Here's a timeline of our experience and, based on numerous employees, there are many other customers who have had a similar experience: 2/13 - Paid in full for pool 3/24 - Grading scheduled - no one showed up 3/28 - Graders show up but were not prepared - advised they'd come back in the afternoon 3/29 - Graders say they'll come on 3/30 3/30 - Graders no call no show 3/31 - Graders say they'll contact me but never follow up 4/1 - Graders text after 3pm stating they'll be by the next day 4/2 - Graders reschedule for 4/7 4/7 - Graders don't show up 4/8 - Graders cancel at 7am 4/9 - Graders say they'll call later 4/10 - Graders finally complete their work 4/15 - Installation team begins but cannot finish as they don't have the right tools 4/16 - Installers watch YouTube videos to find out what to do but complete no work, still don't have right tools 4/19 - We send email to company asking for updates - no communication from anyone 4/29 - Still no communication - send another email asking for our pool to be finished 5/5 - Installation team comes back to finish (in the dark, without lights) - install steps incorrectly and unsafely 5/6 - After numerous calls, installation team comes back - regional manager (Jeff) promises to fix our pool 5/18 - Company's head installer comes out to fix the steps - also uses duck tape to make the stretched liner fit 5/23 - Backfill begins but crew has to leave to pull another employee out of the mud 5/24 - Our pool is still not finished and the company doesn't care

  Customer response

  06/06/2022

  I have not heard from the business in response to my complaint. This matter has not been resolved.
  

  

  Business response

  08/09/2022

  The customer purchased his pool on 2/5/22.  
  He was originally scheduled for grading on 3/24/22.  That appointment was rescheduled for 3/28/22.  During that day it was discovered that the customer had septic lines that could possibly be in the way.  It is the customer's responsibility to ensure a suitable place for the pool to be installed with no obstructions.  The grading was then rescheduled for 4/10/22 so the septic lines could be verified.
  We started installation of the pool on 4/15/22.  Due to some sick employees we only had 2 people on the job that day.  We came back out on 4/25/22 to continue the installation.  At that point the main structure of the pool was complete.
  We went back out on 5/5/22 to plumb the pump and filter system.

  At some point we became aware that the steps were not installed correctly and were leaning.  To rectify this on 5/18/22 we came back out, removed the old steps and installed a brand new set of steps properly and checked the footings thoroughly.
  After that Mr ******** called in and said that he didn't think that the transition from the steps to the coping around the pool looked correct.  There was a piece sticking out very slightly.  We went out on 5/26/22 to assess.  After speaking with the pool manufacturer we went back out and completed the transition according to their directions. The customer was not pleased with the result but we followed the manufacturer's directions.  Additionally on 5/26/22 we backfilled the pool.  The pool was fully functional and working at this time.
  
  We don't normally haul away excess dirt for free or plant grass seed and put straw down when we install a pool.  Due to the delays in Mr ********'s project we did those services for him at no charge.  After that there were 4 pieces of trim that we were waiting to get in.  Two of those pieces covered the transition that was an earlier issue.  The other 2 pieces were covers for buttresses. Those were installed 7/1/22 and the pool was complete.  

   

   

   

  Thanks,

  Jeff M*******

  Backyard Leisure

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