ComplaintsforGrayson BMW

• Initial Complaint

  07/10/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I got a used car from Grayson on 01/31/24 , I was told while signing the paper work that the car was “close to perfect” condition by ***** *****, test drove it, it’s drove smooth and I liked it a lot. I left, took it all the way home to Russellville where I live and everything was fine. The next day I leave to go to work as I’m pulling out the check engine light came on and the automatic system starts telling me to avoid driving the vehicle so I called they told me to bring it down. I got there I was taken to a back room and was told THEY messed up on the paper work and I had to pay $2000 more for my car, and try to say it was my fault because I signed the paper, but I told them it wasn’t my fault and to just give me my old car back because I didn’t trust them already. They told me they seen I knew what I was doing and didn’t want to give me my old car they wanted me to keep this one. They said the finance agent was new and it was his fault. They said they would keep my car for one day and they had it two weeks. When I finally got it back I asked for paper work on what they fixed. Never received it. Got the car and noticed it started shaking once it got to 60mph. A few weeks later my two back tires were bald with no tread. Called to get my tire and wheel warranty and ***** told me to lie and take it to pep boys on Kingston pike and they would say there were nails so I didn’t have to buy new tires. I didn’t feel right doing so, I got new tires and took it to get aligned and I find out the car is completely messed up. Was told it can’t be aligned because it looked like it had been wrecked. Reached out to Grayson and was told it wasn’t wrecked and they would give me a car fax. I never got that and they stopped answering me. I got my own car fax and it has been wrecked and it was hit on the side that’s causing all of the issues and covered up. I have since got 3 sets of back tires about to get the 4th and I’ve reached out to them to settle and they quit responding.

  

  Business response

  07/19/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  the customer bought this car quite awhile ago

  i hope it serves them well

  thankyou

  

  Business response

  07/27/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  the customer has owned this car for a long time

  it seems to me that in the future maybe they would be a better new car customer

  thanks

  Customer response

  07/29/2024

  
  Complaint: 21964576
  
  I am rejecting this response because:
  
  I’ve not even owned the car for 5 months and I’ve been trying to contact them for at least 3 of those almost 5. But that’s completely fine. No one here wants to help me I’ve already contacted who needs to be contacted to get this process going. See you in court. 
  

  Maybe in the future you can sale new cars and not lie about them and be frauds. Maybe be upfront about the crappy cars you’re selling! Have a great day. Thanks. 
  

  
  Sincerely,
  
  ****** *****

• Initial Complaint

  07/01/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  Warranty denied for dead battery in 2022 X5 hybrid! Dealer blamed user error (lights left on) and denied warranty coverage despite Ring camera footage proving otherwise. Now stuck paying $1300+ for a faulty battery under dubious circumstances. Background details… 2022 X5 45e hybrid that is still under warranty had an electrical “glitch” that did not allow the car to turn on or be driven. Took it in for inspection. They said problem was battery failure due to parking lights or hazard lights being left on (according to their computer system) and therefore would not be covered under warranty. Absolutely could not believe it! I asked when this “lights left on” supposedly happened. They looked it up and service advisor told me that they “were able to isolate the time stamp to 6/11/24, 10:43pm.” Luckily, I had Ring Camera footage showing the problem occurring long before that around 10:01pm (car had been parked there around 8:36pm). Sent the footage to them showing all this and still refused to cover it under warranty! They stuck with their claim that their computer system is accurate and therefore we must’ve left the lights on. I even have Ring Camera footage before all of this showing the lights off. Spoke to Service Manager and explained all of this, but to no avail (I will admit though that he was very calm, respectful, and patient in listening despite persistent warranty denial). Now they’re wanting over $1300 to replace 12v car battery that they say was damaged by leaving parking lights or hazard lights on (which they were not per camera footage) too long (about 90 minutes per camera footage).

  

  Business response

  07/15/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  the warranty claim was denied so if the customer wants us to fix the car they will have to pay for it

  the customer picked up their car several weeks ago

  have a great day

  thanks

  

  Business response

  07/27/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  i'm sorry the customer is not happy

  but if the claim is denied we are not going to replace the battery for free

  have a great day

  thanks

  Customer response

  07/29/2024

  
  Complaint: 21920340
  
  I am rejecting this response because:

  Thank you, BBB.

  I'm sorry that this business is not understanding the issue. No one is asking for free service. The issue is that they are wrongly denying the claim and then continuing to just repeat and stand on that excuse.

  Sincerely,
  
  ****** *****

• Initial Complaint

  06/24/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I purchased a BMW 740I from BMW back in February 2024. On the contract they added $795 for Accessory Charge, $399 for Key Replacement charge and $5,225 for vehicle warranty. The company is National Auto Care program in which no one accepts this warranty. I have gone to 8 different places and called and none of them accepts there warranty. I contacted BMW/Grayson Auto body that BMW uses and they never called me back despite of several emails and personal contact. I also contacted National Auto Care about 2 months ago to cancel my warranty and they will not respond back as well. I contacted the Finance company at Grayson BMW/finance department and received an email with capital letters saying they have nothing to do with the warranty. This is the type of treatment I have received after I purchased over $40,000 vehicle from them.

  

  Business response

  07/01/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  unfortunately the customer has a paint concern with their car

  they are correct

  this is not covered by a mechanical warranty

  i hope the car serves them well

  thankyou

   

  Customer response

  07/09/2024

  
  Complaint: 21891919
  
  I am rejecting this response because: The warranty coverage that BMW sold me keeps giving me the run around and places do not except that warranty coverage.  Basically, BMW is pushing off bad businesses to consumers and then say we have nothing to do with it.  I have tried for 3 months to get this done and to cancel there warranties that BMW sold but sill no movement.  
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ***** *********

  

  Business response

  07/10/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  mechanical warranties do not cover paint concerns

  have a great day

  thanks

• Initial Complaint

  06/03/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  On May 30th 2024 I began working with an out of state sales associate of Grayson BMW by the name of ***** *****. After viewing the online info and photos, Mr ***** agrees to send me a walk-around video (on file) on how immaculate the vehicle is. I specifically informed Mr ***** that I have purchased used vehicles before and that they are called used for a reason. "However, Mr *****, before I drive four hours, could you please tell me are there ANY obvious damages or concerns with this vehicle." Mr *****, again, assures me that he has checked the vehicle, driven the vehicle and it's an "immaculate machine". I informed him I would be there tomorrow to look at the car and purchase the car if it's what he says it is. At this point he informs that he will need insurance, DL, credit info, and $1k deposit to hold the car for less than 24hrs. At this point I emailed Mr ***** and informed him that the credit app will have to wait until tomorrow but I will send insurance, DL, and $1k deposit to go towards the purchase of the vehicle (email on file).. I get to the dealership let the car run while I inspect it. The vehicle appears to have come from an auction and has red stains on the rear carpet (not pictured or shown on walk-around video), the rear cup holder falls completely to the floor, and the walls of the cargo department were beyond scratched. *AGAIN, ALL I ASKED WAS TO BE MADE AWARE OF ANY ISSUES OR COSMETIC FLAWS BEFORE I DROVE FOUR HOURS TO PURCHASE THIS VEHICLE... I am filing this claim, just as many others have done against the USED CAR SALES TACTICS of Grayson BMW. I am requesting the refund of the $1,000 good faith payment that was made towards the advertised vehicle. I will also file a claim with TN AG's Office, as this seems to be a common trend between many of the Grayson Auto Dealerships as of late. **Please let me know if any additional supporting emails, docs, pics, and/or videos are needed. Thanks!

  

  Business response

  06/05/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  unfortunately the customer is not quite telling the whole story

  their trade was supposed to be a nice car --  it was not

  also the customer is the one who broke the cupholder !!!

  we would prefer not to do business with people like this

  have a great day

  thanks

  Customer response

  06/05/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:
  

  It is untrue and I am in the process of filing for arbitration to prove my case.
  Sincerely,
  
  ***** ********

• Initial Complaint

  05/03/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Sales and Advertising Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I am writing to file a formal complaint against Greyson BMW in Knoxville, TN, regarding deceptive sales practices that occurred during my recent vehicle purchase. On April 9th, I purchased a 2022 Subaru Outback from Greyson BMW, with ******* **** serving as the salesman. Prior to the sale, I was provided with a Carfax report that indicated the car had VIN glass etching. Mr. **** assured me that all cars on the lot had this service done and that it was not optional. Relying on his assurance, I signed the Buyers Order and Contract, which included a charge of $249 for a Theft Deterrent Policy. However, upon returning home and conducting further research, I discovered that VIN etching involves the actual VIN number being etched onto the glass, which was not present on the vehicle I purchased. When I returned to the dealership to address this discrepancy with Mr. ****, he pointed out stickers on the inside of the doors with a third-party phone number, claiming it was VIN etching. However, these stickers did not contain the actual VIN number, as advertised on the Carfax report. I believe Greyson BMW engaged in deceptive advertising and dishonest sales tactics by falsely claiming that the vehicle had VIN glass etching when it did not. This misrepresentation misled me into paying for a service that was not provided, and I feel taken advantage of by the dealership. Attached to this letter are photos of the Buyers Order and Contract, a screenshot of the Carfax report I was given by the dealer prior to purchase, a screenshot of my car's information including the VIN, and a photo of the sticker inside the door panel with none of my VIN numbers. Please investigate this matter thoroughly and take appropriate action against Greyson BMW for their deceptive practices. Consumers deserve to be treated with honesty and transparency when making significant purchases, and it is unacceptable for businesses to engage in misleading advertising to exploit their customers.

  

  Business response

  05/08/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  the word "etch" does not appear on any Grayson paperwork

  the customer did pay for a theft deterrent policy

  we do not force anyone to buy a car

  i hope the car serves them well

  have a great day

  

  Business response

  05/18/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  the customer did receive a theft protection program

  they paid no more or no less than any other customer

  i hope the car serves them well

  thankyou

  Customer response

  05/20/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:
  
  While I acknowledge that I received a theft protection program and paid the standard rate, the primary issue remains unaddressed. My dissatisfaction stems from the misleading information provided by the salesperson and the discrepancy between what was promised and what was actually delivered.
  The salesperson explicitly stated that the vehicle included VIN glass etching as part of the theft deterrent policy. This was a significant factor in my decision to purchase the car. Upon further inspection, I discovered that the VIN etching was not performed as promised. Instead, there were only stickers with a third party's phone number inside the doors, which is not the same as actual VIN etching.
  To support my claim, I have previously attached a document provided by the salesman dated 4-3-24, which explicitly states that VIN etching was included. This information was also reported to Carfax by Grayson BMW, further reinforcing my understanding that VIN etching was part of the theft deterrent policy I purchased.
  The issue is not about the cost or the existence of a theft protection program, but the accuracy and honesty of the information provided by Grayson BMW. I believe customers deserve transparency and truthful communication, especially from a dealership that prides itself on being "A Name You Can Trust."
  I hope this clarifies my position and the nature of my complaint. I look forward to a resolution that addresses these concerns. 
  ***** ******

• Initial Complaint

  02/06/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Sales and Advertising Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  Recently bought a used bmw from ****** at Grayson. Spoke with him several times on the phone about the vehicle. Asked if there were any issues with the vehicle, he stated nothing at all, will be a great car. I live 300 miles away, bought the car on the word of the salesman, drove it a total of 10 miles and transmission went out. Torque converter shuttering and slipping. Very disappointed as I would have still bought the vehicle with the bad transmission, was charge way too much on the vehicle with a bad transmission. So disappointed. I do understand it’s my responsibility but when a potential buyer asks if there is a problem with the vehicle and the knowingly, deceive you that’s a problem. I’m sure Grayson checks there vehicles thoroughly. I do feel as if some of the responsibility lies on Grayson for deceptive sales practices

  

  Business response

  02/10/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  the customer thought the car was ok when they bought it

  we do not know when a car is going to break

  we have had new cars break in the first week

  i'm glad the customer got the car fixed and i hope it serves them well

  thankyou

• Initial Complaint

  01/30/2024

  Complaint Type:

  Sales and Advertising Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I went to Grayson BMW on 12/31/2021 to trade in a current car for a newer model. When shown the car, I was told it was in like-new condition with no issues or accidents reported by the salesman, ****** ******* I paid 38,295.00 for a 2019 BMW. For the entire first year of having the car, they could not find the title or give me any reasoning for not having it. I had to call multiple times just to be put off for a year, saying it was on the way. I got my title in December 2022 after being pulled over multiple times for not having it. After having this many issues, I looked into selling the car or trading it back in to Grayson BMW. After calling Grayson for a few months, in December of 2023, the owner of the business told me that my car had been in three accidents (which I was not made aware of when purchasing the car, nor is it in any of the paperwork I was given), and that he did not want to buy it back. In his own words, he stated, "try selling it to CarMax". It was an extremely rude and disrespectful situation to be put in, as I would not have purchased the car if I had known that it had been in any accidents. The car salesman that I had bought the car through has also been let go since then, which leads me to believe that they knew he was making unlawful, shady deals such as mine. I only want the situation to be resolved and set right.

  

  Business response

  01/30/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  the customer bought this car in 2021

  i hope it has served them well

  we will not replace the car

  thankyou

  Customer response

  02/05/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because we DID try to trade it back in, given the circumstances that we were lied to, and were told that they did not want it. The reasoning being that it had been in three collisions that we were never made aware of when buying the car, as it is not in any of the paperwork either. If we had not been lied to in the first place, this would not be an issue.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ***** ******

  

  Business response

  02/10/2024

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  i hope the customer finds a car that makes them happy

  i also hope it serves them well

  have a great day

  thankyou

• Initial Complaint

  12/13/2023

  Complaint Type:

  Service or Repair Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I'll try and provide details via the first letter I sent: Grayson’s Body Shop Fax# 8656913307 8729 Kingston Pike Knoxville, TN 37923 ATTN: Manager Dear Sir and/or Madam: As you should be aware, your body shop owes me for damages. For unknown reasons, Grayson’s BMW sent my car to the body shop after repairs at Grayson’s BMW, even though there were no body damages. You quoted body shop charges to my insurance, State Farm, who subsequently informed me it was being totaled. I told them I would be keeping the car and they sent me a check. Upon trying to pick up my vehicle at Grayson’s Body Shop, I was told that I couldn’t have it as it was unsafe. I noticed at that time that you had removed the bumper and the passenger side lower strip. Also, it sat so long at your facility that the battery went dead and had to be replaced (very new battery). The table below lists the costs to me to repair your damages: Repairs Table Item Work Cost Work by Comment Battery Replace $400.00 Kadunza Went dead after Grayson kept so long Bumper Re-Install $300.00 Courtesy Received without bumper, Grayson’ left in back seat Sidewall Missing $700.00 Courtesy Grayson removed Car Rental N/A $500.00 Courtesy For leaving car at Courtesy Car Rental N/A $5,000.00 Courtesy While Grayson held car (also includes previous deductibles) Total Cost $6,900.00 Timing: Car Information: 2003 BMW 330 XI Date Grayson Received: October 22. 2021 Date to Body Shop: Approximately February 24, 2022 Date Back to me: Approximately August 19, 2022 Date Ins Stopped Rental Car Payment: Approximately June 1, 2022

  

  Business response

  12/13/2023

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  the car was totaled

  at that time the insurance company and the body shop are done

  i hope the customer has a nice day

  thankyou

  

  Business response

  12/22/2023

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  i appreciate the customers enthusiasm but we do not "part" out cars

  if the customer wants a totalled car that is up to him

  but at that point we or the insurance co are done with the car

  have a great day !!!

  Customer response

  01/01/2024

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because:
  

  They are just saying the same thing over again. As you can see, they removed the $800 side strip and kept it. I've previously provided histories and timelines.

  This is easily proved by contacting Kadunza auto, They received the car directly from Grayson' body shop.

  Grayson's has not provided a single answer to any of the previous issues. Verdict: they are covering up a lie and a crime

   

  
  Sincerely,
  
  ****** ********

• Initial Complaint

  08/07/2023

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  I purchased a pre owned vehicle which was described as one owner like new on 08/04/2023. They dealership drove the car to my home and delivered it. After the delivery I went to move the car into the garage and noticed a crack in the windshield and a small tear and puncture in the rear plastic window (convertible top). I immediately notified the dealership and the salesman assured me not to worry and he’d speak to the manager in the morning. So, today 08/05/2023 I hadn’t heard and I contacted the dealer and he texted me back they would not do anything to fix the vehicle. I stated I had the car just 12 hours and would return the vehicle and he states “my manager will not return the vehicle and will not fix the windshield or rear window, it was there before you bought it”.

  

  Business response

  08/10/2023

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  this car is over 20 years old

  the customer saw pictures of the car and took delivery

  i hope they enjoy it

  have a great day

  Customer response

  08/11/2023

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because: the business and salesman described this car as in excellent like new condition with no defects. They not only set false pretense and were fraudulent in the sales process, but they outright lied and is a clear case of bait and switch tactics.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  *** ******

• Initial Complaint

  07/31/2023

  Complaint Type:

  Product Issues

  Status:

  Answered

  More info

  Bought a car Monday at 430pm after test driving and asking why it shuttered on take off was told beefy engine then asked why it's idling like it does was told it was ac kicking off and on. Ask for carfax sales man wouldn't let me see it but read it on his phone. I asked for service records he read those from his phone saying it passed emissions to be drivable and reliable was a gently used car and fit for my 5 children to be in. 40 hours later it shuts down in the middle of the highway. Had it towed to harper infiniti where they say all services were received and they said it had stored codes for a bad transmission. Contacted grayson 5 times was forwarded to sales man voice-mail and it wasn't taking messages. Then was forwarded to sales manager who finally returned my call and said his sales man never sai ld it was a good car and it was going to auction which we was never informed about that or we would have passed it up like the car before it 30 Mins earlier over bad axles and we told him that he once again assured us it was a great car no issues at all. Also he rode on the 7 min test ride and wouldn't shut up for us to hear the car run and take off kept talking how great it was. But grayson refuses to help on the matter after many attempts I would just like them to make it right yes it was an as is car but once again assured it was mechanically safe for our children to be in!!!

  

  Business response

  07/31/2023

  thankyou BBB for sending this

  we are very clear about as-is cars

  i hope the customer gets the car fixed and has a great experience

  thankyou very much

  Customer response

  08/07/2023

  
  Complaint: ********
  
  I am rejecting this response because: **** * ***** ** ****** and lied about a car your a big business that's what yall do nothing was told to us but lies among lies. Just like refusal for the paperwork on your reports of the car that the sales man only had on his cell phone. Thanks for the new yard decor. That's junk and almost caused 2 wrecks in the same day! ****** *** **** ******* ** ** *** **** *** ** **** ****** ** **** *********t. That's the care I got when someone finally called me back. 
  
  Sincerely,
  
  ***** ********

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